"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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That's it, it is time to change!

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I don't know what it is, but somehow seeing Marissa again and sitting with 2 girls during chemistry, has inspired me to change. I'm tired of being Mike, guy who lots of people know and talk to, but doesn't really have any friends. I'm also tired of not having the guts to approach girls I like. Mr. Confidence is the guy I want to become, the guy who has many friends, a social life, and has the guts to approach girls that he likes. Put more simply, the Mr. Confidence I want to become is a Don Juan. Right now, I do a lot of activities, and I have a few friends, but I'm still the guy who sits alone at lunch(Well I could sit with my other friends, but they're not that social either). Most people either see me as the quiet guy, or just plain have no idea who I am. So I'm going to change, and I won't make another post on this forum until I've actually started making progress. Things I plan to accomplish are:
- Becoming more comfortable with approaching women.
- Becoming more social.
- Get some actual p*ssy and stop fantasizing.
- Becoming more confident with myself.

Yeah, it'll be hard, but it's about time I let go of my AFC ways. I know many of you don't believe I'll do anything, that's fair, I've given you reasons to believe that, but I've got a feeling this time is going to be different.
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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LOLOLOL that other thread JUST got locked.
 
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Kev07 said:
keep a log to detail your progress
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Sounds like a good plan. Tonight I'm thinking about who I could approach tomorrow and tomorrow I'll actually approach someone. Perhaps even Marissa, she's wasting her time with all those other guys. Should of got her when I had the chance, but hey, she hasn't left yet, the fact we no longer have band together just means I have to try harder.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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MrConfidence said:
Sounds like a good plan. Tonight I'm thinking about who I could approach tomorrow and tomorrow I'll actually approach someone. Perhaps even Marissa, she's wasting her time with all those other guys. Should of got her when I had the chance, but hey, she hasn't left yet, the fact we no longer have band together just means I have to try harder.
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Omg i don't even know why I'm wasting my time writing this but i feel compelled to help you...

Don't "think" about who your going to approach now, make it an impulse and "act" on it. That's what distinguishes the average AFC from the DJ, actions.
 
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Omg i don't even know why I'm wasting my time writing this but i feel compelled to help you...

Don't "think" about who your going to approach now, make it an impulse and "act" on it. That's what distinguishes the average AFC from the DJ, actions.
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Oh man, I don't want to start arguing again. You can't make it impulse when the same girls sit in the same places everyday. My schools small enough that I can safely say I've seen almost every girl once. Still, if I was sarging elsewhere, that advice works very well, but YES, I am taking your advice, just for not school approaches. Still, I seriously want to see if I have a chance at banging Marissa, if she rejects me, so what? No sweat off my back. If I get the fanboys(AKA her "male" friends) away from her, approaching should be simple. From there, what happens happens.
 
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Oh man, I don't want to start arguing again. You can't make it impulse when the same girls sit in the same places everyday. My schools small enough that I can safely say I've seen almost every girl once. Still, if I was sarging elsewhere, that advice works very well, but YES, I am taking your advice, just for not school approaches. BTW, is it WRONG to have oneitis for a chick that's hotter than most chicks in the school(Marissa)? I seriously want to see if I have a chance to bang this chick, those other guys she sits with are just friends, obviously not doing something right.
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Ok I don't want to either, I'm just saying you can approach at more places than just lunch, how about just talk to some girls walking through the hall? Impulsive so you have no time to get nervous (3 second rule) and it will make you fell good for a while too.

No, it's not wrong to have oneitis, it's just stupid. By having oneitis your pretty much eliminating any other oppurtunities and giving the girl control.

I expect to see some results up tomorrow!
 
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Oh BOY, I wonder what we will be hearing 2 days from now..

What are you thinking up this time, "Mike"? She was sitting with friends? You didn't know what to say? There was no room at the table? I can't wait!
 
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What are you thinking up this time, "Mike"? She was sitting with friends? You didn't know what to say? There was no room at the table? I can't wait!
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Speaking of that, how would you go about approaching a girl when there are a bunch of senior guys sitting there?

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Ok I don't want to either, I'm just saying you can approach at more places than just lunch, how about just talk to some girls walking through the hall? Impulsive so you have no time to get nervous (3 second rule) and it will make you fell good for a while too.

No, it's not wrong to have oneitis, it's just stupid. By having oneitis your pretty much eliminating any other oppurtunities and giving the girl control.

I expect to see some results up tomorrow!
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Alright hall sounds good too, excuses aside.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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step 1)take your shoe strings
step 2)tie shoe string together
step 3)make a noose and put around neck
step 4)jump.
 
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guys(seniors or otherwise) and UGs... are just UGs. talk to them a little and make them your friends(tell stories and get them to like u) and they'll think ur so cool that they won't care ur going for marissa and they might even convince her to go with u. ;).
 
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Looks like change isn't happening yet. Didn't get any approaches in this morning, and I already know I'm not going to do crap at lunch. WAs going to say hi to this Ashley girl, but she was going a bit fast for me. Maybe something will happen after Spring Break.
 
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Actually contrary to what I thought was going to happen, I actually did get MINOR success. Didn't approach anyone, weren't any oppurtunities, but I did say "Hey" to this girl, and she actually smiled and said "Hey" back. Yeah, I know I'm just going to get banned again, but just wanted to say that I'm getting success. Banned or not, when school starts back up again after Spring Break, I see good things happening.
 
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Why did you get banned!?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Why did you get banned!?
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Many reasons. However, in my most recent post I DID start to change, and I am continuing to change. I have started taking advice, and I have started to not use excuses. Plus, I don't know why, but after that hot girl not only said "Hey" to me, but smiled at me, that gave me a major confidence boost. Nonetheless, I am improving, but if you got to ban me, you gotta ban me. Won't affect my improving.
 
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ban his ip not just his name, come on mods.
 
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