Texting is necessary with new Gen of girls, TINDER experience

[usernamedox11]

I decided to make a catfish profile on Tinder. I used this guy's pictures here: http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/3259586/viewall

Dude is a Ryan Gosling look alike.

With my own pics, I got about 85 matches over the course of 4 days, while swiping right on everyone. Had one girl who was a 6 that wanted to meet up, but I flaked on her.


With this guy's pics, I get 300 matches in under an hour and hit 1200+ matches in 3 days. Big difference. The girls liked that he was tall, blonde, tattooed, and dressed well in those pics. The ugly girls were throwing themselves at me.


I was able to pull some numbers of HB 8 or higher girls on Tinder using this guy's pics, and I tried to get them to schedule with me over text. I always got the "but I still don't know you" and I would reply with saying "but you can get to know me face to face." Didn't matter, the girls wanted to text and build a connection with me over it before considering to hang out. So I couldn't schedule with these girls in the end by how quickly I moved. Keep in mind these girls are 22 and younger.


I changed my methods because using texting for quick small talk and scheduling was not working, even with this guy's pics. I decided to actually text and get to learn about the girls I was texting. I didn't do it in a beta way and I was very assertive in my texts and acted plenty ****y but mixed it up with showing signs of me being a "good guy." This worked very well. Apparently girls like the way I talk to them. So I was able to set up 7 hang outs with 7 different girls. Obviously I'm gonna flake cause I'm not the guy, but I did really like one of the girls--thought she was hot.

I admitted to her that the profile was catfish and that I really wasn't the tall blonde dude. She got mad at first but said that she still liked me cause I was fun to talk to and that I seemed somewhat of a challenge. This girl is a solid 8. She's 5'8, works out, does volleyball, etc. She told me she is very used to texting and that even if she likes a guy she'd never initiate a text conversation because she herself is scared of rejection. She told me she would still like to hang out with me even though she has no clue what I look like. I told her I'd send her a pic later. We are gonna hang out later this week. She said the biggest reason that she wants to hang out with me is that I seemed like somewhat of a challenge over text, and I wasn't afraid to be rude, insult her, or be assertive with her during our conversations. She said she never had guys speak to her like that and she was turned on by me being assertive. I broke all the rules. I'd send 3-4 consecutive texts and I'd maintain my alpha frame in the content of those messages. She would then reply with 3-4 texts consecutively too. The girls seem to mirror how you text them. They seem to think if you barely text or don't text much at all that you aren't interested. I had deep convos with a lot of girls and they were telling me how they don't wanna seem desperate and that they don't wanna put themselves out there by initiating every convo.


Texting WORKS. Just seem fun over text and maintain your alpha frame. Be ****y and mix it in with showing signs of being a good guy

 

[MillionBillionaire]

Catfish eh? .... Yummy.

Nice work mate. I couldn't get a date off tinder if my life depended on it. My text game is a disaster ... but I was told that is ok.

Now I don't know what to think.

+1 Repped.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Really Bruh?

In order to prove your hypothesis correct, you'd have to get a bigger sample, using your own pictures, you'd have actually have arranged the date and not have the chick flake. It only makes sense that women are trying to reach out to a guy looks like Ryan Gossling. You'd probably get the same results with photoshopped pictures of yourself in the drivers seat of Phantom or a Lamborghini, or even pictures of you in front of "your," 8,000 square foot mansion.

 

[usernamedox11]

In order to prove your hypothesis correct, you'd have to get a bigger sample, using your own pictures, you'd have actually have arranged the date and not have the chick flake. It only makes sense that women are trying to reach out to a guy looks like Ryan Gossling. You'd probably get the same results with photoshopped pictures of yourself in the drivers seat of Phantom or a Lamborghini, or even pictures of you in front of "your," 8,000 square foot mansion.

You're right. But no, the HB 6 didn't flake on me. I flaked on her. I was talking about the 6 from when I was using my own pics.


You're right in that looking like Ryan Gosling opened the door for me to talk to them in the first place. But doing little small talk and then asking to hang out wasn't even working. Could not get a date with a girl who was a 7 or higher. It wasn't until I texted them constantly and got to know them that they wanted to hang out with me.

I had girls tell me, even with my own pics, I was the most interesting guy they spoke to on tinder and they wanted to see me just because of that. But they weren't 7s and higher so I did not bother. Only one 8 swiped right back on me, and she ignored my message on tinder.

The biggest thing is being able to have the girl's ear. If she's paying attention and she finds you attractive enough, she will like talking to you constantly if you have a confident & ****y frame.

Believe it or not, a lot of these girls are scared of being pumped and dumped. A lot of them actually really opened up to me about the endless amount of times they waited a few dates before giving it up and had the guy flake on them and completely ignore their texts after they finally gave it up. They weren't trying to hide how many times they've been fvcked. Might just be this new generation of girls that have no concept of personal privacy and secrets. It could just be a sh1t test, but I believe it. It's happened to enough of them. They want to feel like the guy might genuinely be interested.

 

[gimmeyofonenumba]

I appreciate this. I'm realizing from my own experience the real early 20's crowd is certainly different from the previous generation. Keep up with the research. Let us know what they respond or don't respond well too. Are these girls more sexual then older ones?

 

[CaptainSaveAh0]

Theres 2 approaches to tinder.

The super direct approach where you just message a woman and be super direct with her and let her know what you want. Most of the time ( especially with the younger girls) this will fail but at least you will not have wasted your time.

Then there is the other approach to where you build some rapport with them and get to know them better. I've used this method everytime because I am young and most of the young girls I've noticed preferred this method. I've gotten around 90 matches and 10+ numbers and 1 resulting in a lay from this method.

As you can see those stats are pretty horrible. Majority of girls I have tried to meet up even after building rapport have flaked and the only girl that has ever actually met up with me I ended up fvcking.

I wouldn;t really waste my time with this app, and yes building rapport with the girls will help, but if you do not get the lay in the end then it was all a waste of time.

 

[bukowski_merit]

My quick summarized opinion on texting:

Lots of texting early (in the "get to know each other" phase) is not going to lose attraction. Bad texting early on (or period) will though.

Lots of texting once you have banged and are "seeing" the girl WILL kill attraction.

My go to route: Text tons to build rapport and get her to my house for the bang. Once banged - slowly pull back the texting to the point it's 1-5 messages a day. Once they invest sexually - let them chase you from there....

Could of saved myself tons of headaches over the years by using this formula. Can't tell you the # of women I lost over the years by continuing to overtext once we banged/knew each other well. There's only so many interesting things to talk about.

 

[usernamedox11]

I appreciate this. I'm realizing from my own experience the real early 20's crowd is certainly different from the previous generation. Keep up with the research. Let us know what they respond or don't respond well too. Are these girls more sexual then older ones?

Here is an example conversation they respond very well to. I recommend using this style of conversation so that you seem unique. I got this girl's number within 10 minutes of talking to her through tinder. Here is the tinder conversation: http://imgur.com/a/EKfT9#0


And yes, I do believe that these new generation of girls are more open when it comes to sex.

 

[VikingKing]

It's always necessary to build rapport unless you either know her from the past, or shes a dumb whovre.

The 2nd girl I was with I added on myspace. Within 10 mins of chatting she says "So do you like sex?" :crackup: :crackup:

I remember pounding her in her rich daddies hot tub right in front of his front door thinking "If this guy comes out here, hes not going to be happy at all."

Especially a not fvcked up girl is going to need some rapport, she's not going to just trust you immediately.

bukowski's got it right.

 

[zekko]

That dude is a dead ringer for Ryan Gosling. If you hadn't said otherwise, I would have sworn that is Ryan Gosling. He's also dressed impeccably and looks like he has money. I'm surprised you didn't get more immediate results, unless the girls were suspicious that the pics looked too good and professional.

 

[Jaylan]

Do we really need yet another thread of Tinder or texting? I thought we had an official Tinder thread too.

But, yes OP, by now many men should know how much texting can help with dating. However, I wouldnt use your experience as proof of that unless she doesnt flake and you increase your sample size. Using another mans pics to help get your foot in the door is a weak move imo. And no matter how much of a strong alpha frame you think you had texting, that girl is sure thinking it was weak and lacking confidence that you had to do that to get attention.

Anyways, I really think texting is a great way to build rapport. I wouldnt wanna quickly meet up with some chick without building rapport first and Im a dude. So with all the crap chicks have to worry about, I can definitely understand why they dont wanna just run and meet without getting to know someone a little. And I usually dont give out my number without a little bit of ice breaking on Tinder.

Tinder-->texting-->more pic exchanging (possibly sexy pics)-->phone call/skype-->meet up.

Thats how I do it, and it only takes a few days. By then youve built good rapport, flirted a fair bit, and depending on the pics exchanged, have her very turned on and wanting to see you.

 

[usernamedox11]

Do we really need yet another thread of Tinder or texting? I thought we had an official Tinder thread too.

But, yes OP, by now many men should know how much texting can help with dating. However, I wouldnt use your experience as proof of that unless she doesnt flake and you increase your sample size. Using another mans pics to help get your foot in the door is a weak move imo. And no matter how much of a strong alpha frame you think you had texting, that girl is sure thinking it was weak and lacking confidence that you had to do that to get attention.

Wasn't the plan to do that. Was just doing it to see how much easier it would be with his pics. Didn't actually think I'd wanna meet one of them enough for it.

 

[Atom Smasher]

My quick summarized opinion on texting:

Lots of texting early (in the "get to know each other" phase) is not going to lose attraction. Bad texting early on (or period) will though.

Lots of texting once you have banged and are "seeing" the girl WILL kill attraction.

My go to route: Text tons to build rapport and get her to my house for the bang. Once banged - slowly pull back the texting to the point it's 1-5 messages a day. Once they invest sexually - let them chase you from there....

Could of saved myself tons of headaches over the years by using this formula. Can't tell you the # of women I lost over the years by continuing to overtext once we banged/knew each other well. There's only so many interesting things to talk about.

This is the perfect plan. Use text to build a connection, then once your hooks are in, use it simply as a practical tool for arranging getting together. Very little casual chit-chat, and absolutely zero important discussions.

 

[goldengoose]

I would think a chick would get p1ssed off if she got catfished from some guy and wouldn't want to have anything to do him after that.

 

[usernamedox11]

I would think a chick would get p1ssed off if she got catfished from some guy and wouldn't want to have anything to do him after that.

She's still texting me today. Even called me last night.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Younger gen is so fvcked up...

 

[the_stig]

A professional model resembling Ryan Gosling got more matches on Tinder? Young girls like to text?

Let me know if the sun comes up tomorrow.

 

[usernamedox11]

A professional model resembling Ryan Gosling got more matches on Tinder? Young girls like to text?

Let me know if the sun comes up tomorrow.

Missing the point. The point is a lot of the many older guys recommend only using text for scheduling when first getting a girl. Doesn't work with these new generation of girls.

I got a girl to break up with her boyfriend 2 years ago without actually ever hanging out with her in person outside of school.

Texting works. Girls are not gonna think you have no life or have no options if you text them because they text all day too.

 

[old_skoolr]

Of course texting works, the problem is most guys dont know how to use texting and instead become a jester for the womens amusement. Texting is a tool, a useful tool, but a tool nonetheless. Dont base your whole game around it or your bound to fail.

 

[Sofomore]

Tinder is great for practicing text game. I've found that if you get a girls number at a bar but didn't build much rapport you can use texting as a tool to get the first date by building more comfort. It's the same thing with tinder, except lower chances of success with tinder.

Opener -> make them laugh -> build comfort -> set up date

If you skip any of these steps you will have a lower success rate unless, of course, her IL is sky high.