"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Texting: better way to create urgency?

tryst type

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I'm not much a fan of texting unless it's to set up plans but! If it's a new girl who I've started talking to off pof or Facebook which I've yet to meet, they like to exchange couple texts to build comfort before meeting.

My question, would it better to delay my responses or chat a bit then cut it off first and tell her to send me a text later? Looking for best way in getting her to want to talk to/see me more since I know most guys will constantly text endlessly.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I know what you mean. In these situations you pretty much have to text first. At least I feel that way. I'm sure some people would be fine calling right off the bat, but I like to try to build a little rapport first.

I would just play it by ear man. See how into the convo she is(how big her responses are, is she asking question back?)

So I would say just build a little rapport then go for the set-up. Ask her to meet you out some where that you are going out to. Or set up a date...w/e
 

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I've had success by cutting convo off at a high point and saying to text me later which if she does then setting up a get together is almost always gauranteed.

Problem is, some don't and then I feel weird texting first. So was curious if a delayed response would be better choice.
 

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Well if they don't, they probably aren't that interest or didn't think of it as high of a point as you I guess.

But I would probably just cut back on the "game" part of it and just go for it dude. Don't BS around. Just ask her out.
 

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joverby said:
Well if they don't, they probably aren't that interest or didn't think of it as high of a point as you I guess.

But I would probably just cut back on the "game" part of it and just go for it dude. Don't BS around. Just ask her out.
^THIS. If you don't sense she's playing 'game', why should you waste time either? Go in.

I love a woman who's about her business......

In context to your situation, if you begin to see her cutting off conversations, or replying late, roll up your sleeves, and get to work.. Game her. But if she's hitting you back, and is actually contributing to conversations, go with the flow. Don't over-analyze your own moves. Be aware though, a girl who's about it at first, then sees you trying to game her, it'll hurt you.. She'll be able to tell---if at first you are consistent, then suddenly you are giving late replies, and have things you've got to do... That's just obvious and amateur. She's going to come back on it with you, and the cycle will begin.

Like Joverby said, ask her out as quick as possible. Try to avoid unnecessary games.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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What's a good way to ask them to get together? Because usually they say let's chat more first.
 

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tryst type said:
What's a good way to ask them to get together? Because usually they say let's chat more first.

Hmm didn't really ever get that response myself. But I would probably call them at that point. You're going to build way more rapport calling them.

Then talk for a little bit. When it starts to die down. Ask them out. You'll have a lot better results I'm sure.(As long as you act normal / cool on the phone.)
 

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It's really cool texting people but calls are much better judging a situation. I personally prefer to start off with texts and I'm VERY good on the phone I work as an outboud sales agent but even with that kind of experience you can strike out with the nervous laugh when speaking to prey.
 
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