"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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After a few texts:
her - "I know where you live"
me - "Haha. Is that a threat or a proposition"
her "T.H.R.E.A.T."
me - "yeah, yeah. slow down speed racer, you haven't bought me dinner yet".
her - "you know how to talk to women. Didn't know latinos had these abilities..."

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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What exactly are you wanting to know? Looks like you're doing well keep it going. But I don't know what exactly your asking from that brief text exchange that you posted.
 

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Sorry, I just wanted some feedback. Basically, whether I did ok, and whether I should have responded or left it at that. I'm pretty sure that last text of hers was meant to be sarcastic, so should I have responded? After a while I thought maybe I should have said "Many things you don't know about me" or something, but I figure at this point it's probably too late.
I guess I've been on a bit of a drought and this is a very hot girl, so it might be I just need reassurance. Thanks shyguy.
 

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you did more than OK.

you hold the frame, managed to impress her.

Time to amp-up.

Possible opener next time could be:

So how'bout that dinner you promised you'd buy me? Wanna do it tonight?

next text after she confirms could be

' only under the condition that we end up in the same bedroom afterwards '

..

just some suggestions, good exchange, keep it up brother.
 

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Me personally I wouldn't go there just yet.

I'd say more like..

"I know how to do more than talk, but you still owe me dinner before you find anything else out"
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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For what it's worth, I would have stayed with the joke and tried to build more tension/attraction from it. Like below:

her - "I know where you live"
me - "Haha. Is that a threat or a proposition"
her "T.H.R.E.A.T."
me - "Uh oh, I'd better go hire some bodyguards for protection, then!"

Often times, you'll get a reply like:
her - "You better! I'm very dangerous..."
Then follow up with something like:
me - "Oh really? So what would you do to me once you'd bypass the security guards and got close to me? :)"

Etc. etc. Blah, blah... Turn the conversation into sort of a sexual game. I always try to build up tension/attraction.
 

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her: "I know where you live"

you: "bring the movies"
 

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her - "you know how to talk to women. Didn't know latinos had these abilities..."

you: "you don't know enough Latinos."


Fixed.
 

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Her: "I know where you live"

You: "Did you just invite yourself over? Hm well I could do 8 on (insert two nights you're free for her to choose from) but no later than 8:01"

Cut right to it by reframing what she's saying. Build real tension in person.
 
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Shyguy nailed it. Exactly what id say. She's kinda putting her interest out there and instead of pouncing all over.that opportunity like an eager puppy, that response still qualifies her. Act like you've been there before, ala Barry Sanders.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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The goal ain't to score a dinner? Says who? Lol I hear ya, I don't disagree with ya so much as favor my way over yours. To each their own. Cheers.
 

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Thank you everyone for the input. Much appreciated. So since then, inks have escalated a bit, little banter back and forth, including this pearl:

Me (after she said she couldn't make it somewhere) - hey don't be pouty, you had your chance.
Her- (after a couple minutes) what are you doing tonight? Oh you're busy? Because I would have loved to have sex with you. You had your chance, don't be pouty.

It isn't much, but the fact that she mentions sex and us tells me we're going in the right direction. Now here's where things get tricky and I need your advice fellas:

In the end we agree to text one another last night after our previous engagements to meet up. She texts me at 1030 and I missed it. "how's it going?!" or something to the effect. I reply 40 minutes later: "not bad. How was the bday? Are you done" followed by "want to join?" (having wine with common friends". No reply.

We had talked about doing lunch today. Not a peep. Our exchanges have been over text or ghat. She's not connected, but an email from a friend about an upcoming trip suggest she and him have discussed something today. So, **** test of some sort?

Let me add that yesterday I have her the old "we should just move to the beach, I'll take tourists on boat rides and you can run the cafe" or some **** like that and she was all over it. She also commented how she likes to watch planes take off from he office next to he airport, and it hasn't gotten old. When I said that the fact that she hasn't gotten over that speaks well of her, she reacted with a "what the hell? Is that because you were worried I'm going to get tired of you quickly?" and I quickly replied "Nope. It's because you're still like a kid."
All in all I feel I'm in a good spot, which is why I'm thrown off by her silence.

So, sorry about the rant. I'm thinking I just need to back off, let her contact me and when she does just play it like oh hey! Didn't contact you for lunch because I was in a meeting. Thoughts?
 

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I don't mean this the wrong way but...you are overthinking way too much! You shouldn't be here, extensively explaining all these texts to us and asking our opinions.

Snap out of it, dude. I'm involved in LOTS of texting with my cluster b HB 9 lately and have to remind myself of the same thing constantly. So I know what it's like ;)

But do you analyze text convo's between you and your friends the same way? Of course not... The difference is that with your friends, you don't give a fvck about the outcome. With the chick, you do... WHICH IS BAD! So fight it, man...

It's not about "calculating" the right answers to say to her. It's about finding the right ATTITUDE (I am the prize and you're lucky to even BE in a text convo with me!) Once you have established the right attitude in your mind, the right answers will flow from you automatically.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Her- (after a couple minutes) what are you doing tonight? Oh you're busy? Because I would have loved to have sex with you. You had your chance, don't be pouty.
Beta bait, don't take it.

Her: You had your chance, don't be pouty.

You:
 
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