"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Text message situation

Pandora

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So im seeing this girl. Everything is ok, shes pretty hot and we have been getting physical. The only thing that bothers me is that she lies about text messages. I texted her a few days ago. What she doesnt know is that her phone lets a person know when they have read the text ( a lot of girls dont realize that they still have this on their phone and its hilarious..it betrays them so much). It told me exactly when she read it. A few days later she hits me up claiming she just saw the text. Now this isnt a big deal but im worried about the lying. I feel like the blatant lying is a big red flag. Maybe im overreacting.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Guess it depends. Alot of these notificators just tell you the message arrived at her phone, not necessarily that she read and digested it.

Ther ARE people out there who just have their phone set to not beep on every message. Turn it off while sleeping. Don't whip it out if they're busy. Etc.

If she is a blatant liar, I'm sure it will show throug alot of other things. But I'd give her the benefit of the doubt with this one.
 

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Definite red flag. Everyone does it (reads a text and doesn't reply for ages), and they tell white lies to cover it.
But this still doesn't seem right to me.
Tread carefully and don't invest too much in her just yet.
 

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I've told her before that it bothers me that she takes days to text sometimes ( big mistake). She just laughed and told me she knows. I understand hours to reply but days? wtf...and then lie about it.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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From the surface, I feel like there might be another guy in the picture, but that's really reading into the situation. I could see her taking a quick peak at the text and then getting back to you when it's convenient on her end.
 

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Polish Rifle said:
From the surface, I feel like there might be another guy in the picture, but that's really reading into the situation. I could see her taking a quick peak at the text and then getting back to you when it's convenient on her end.
No you are right there is another guy in the picture. She has told me. But 2 days is still crazy. Especially when u and the girl have been hanging out alot and getting physical. Its takes 2 secs to reply. Or if u didnt want to reply don't lie about it. This is the only thing about women that drives me up the wall. Its the text message games. Texting makes it too easy to be passive aggressive lol
 

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Stop texting her altogether and then you'll see how interested she is in you. When she does, text her back in the same amount of time it took her to text. Sure, it's a game but it will train you to stop looking at the phone every 5 minutes to see if she texted. Try it, you got nothing to lose now if you keep doing what you're doing.

Btw, never tell a chick it bothers you. She'll keep doing it. They act like little girls. If you don't like what she's doing, do the same to her. What would you do with a guy friend that behaves like that? Why is she different? Oh yeah, cause she has a pvssy....Take her off the pedestal and see her for the immature flake that she is and behave accordingly towards her.
 

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El Suave said:
Stop texting her altogether and then you'll see how interested she is in you. When she does, text her back in the same amount of time it took her to text. Sure, it's a game but it will train you to stop looking at the phone every 5 minutes to see if she texted. Try it, you got nothing to lose now if you keep doing what you're doing.

Btw, never tell a chick it bothers you. She'll keep doing it. They act like little girls. If you don't like what she's doing, do the same to her. What would you do with a guy friend that behaves like that? Why is she different? Oh yeah, cause she has a pvssy....Take her off the pedestal and see her for the immature flake that she is and behave accordingly towards her.
yeh man good advice. I been gaming chicks for a while and sumtimes still forget to remember the basics. Esp if they are hot as fu**. My problem is that for the hot ones i keep getting emotional over their flaky behavior. Its like hardwired in me or sumthin. The high you get when they are on ur di** is the low you are gonna feel when they act up.
 

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You said there is another guy in the picture....so your'e one of her plates. While another guy is servicing her, why should she bother to text you until she feels like it?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I'm with El Suave on this one. I've actually really scaled back my texting and only good things have come for it. Ideally, I just want to use texting as a way to make appointments. Or to get those naked selfies from the gals ;-)
 

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I had an old boss who once told me i wasn't reading his emails he was sending. The emails had "read receipts" on them so he would get notified when I read them. I always read the emails in the the "preview" window instead of opening them all the way up into a large window so it never sent a "read receipt" notifying him that I had read his email.

He got schitty with me over it until I pointed out that he didn't quite understand how it exactly worked!

Seemed a little childish to me!
 

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She is responding to your texts when she feels like it.

How is this effecting you? Is it lowering your interest in her, or is it increasing your interest?

What she is doing to you, you should be doing to her. And the second you bring it up, you are stating to her that you care about this relationship more than she does.

The reason she is lying is because you're putting her into the position where she feels she has to lie. What is she supposed to say? "Oh, I saw your text two days ago but I realize it doesn't matter when I respond because you'll be waiting there like a puppy dog regardless, no matter when I text back."

I feel it's time for a re-frame here. Time to not give a fvck about this plate and to go get some more. :up:
 

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Peaks&Valleys said:
She is responding to your texts when she feels like it.

How is this effecting you? Is it lowering your interest in her, or is it increasing your interest?

What she is doing to you, you should be doing to her. And the second you bring it up, you are stating to her that you care about this relationship more than she does.

The reason she is lying is because you're putting her into the position where she feels she has to lie. What is she supposed to say? "Oh, I saw your text two days ago but I realize it doesn't matter when I respond because you'll be waiting there like a puppy dog regardless, no matter when I text back."

I feel it's time for a re-frame here. Time to not give a fvck about this plate and to go get some more. :up:
Yeh ur right man. I got a little bit of onenitis for a sec. How do you draw the line between playing hard to get and her being blatantly disrespectful. Maybe she thinks making me wait will get me to like her more...or is this wishful thinking? Either way im on to other chicks,
 
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