"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Text Game and other tips from a lady!

BadsnakeUK

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Hi all. Just wanted to share a few tips I received from a female friend on game and SMS related issues. The most interesting quotes were:

"When a girl's assessing someone as dating material she's considering them as the potential father of her children."

Reread that and think about the implications for your game. They run deep.

"Girls will run tests on a guy to see what he's like. They check for persistence as an indicator of consistence."

Basically, this relates to the first quote. Are you really serious about her? Are you willing to put in the hard yards if needs be? Are you really interested in her through thick and thin? She will measure the seriousness of your interest by the persistence you display.

The above is where a lot of PUAs get the whole 'she's got to do the chasing' attitude and lose out.

However, here's the kicker, and where the AFCs/desperados get it wrong. This is to do with SMS/phone game:

"She also wants to know you're not the knd of guy who's going to be calling her non-stop and never giving her any space."

So the key here is to strike a balance. She wants persistence but not too much all at once. And yes you must still be prepared to walk away if you are making an inreasonable amount of effort for no return. So how do we get this right?

"If you meet her on a night out, text/call one the evening the next day with a courtesy text. If you get a reply, go with it (but don't go mad on it at this stage). If you don't, wait a couple of days then text her something witty or cool. SHe will probably be really surprised."

OK, at this point I can't guarantee this works, but it seems to make a lot of sense. I'm going harvest some numbers next time I'm out and put this to the test. If anyone wants to do the same, post the results here, and I will give my own evaluation at some point in the near future.

PS. This is not a flake-free technique, but it might help reduce the percentages!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I'm all for persistance, but I hate clingyness.

There's one girl who will NEVER text me first unless I ask her to. But when I ask her to, she ALWAYS does. And when I text her, it's usually every couple of days, and not everyday. Even though she wont write me first, she's still very much into me, tells me how much she likes me, and we usually always hook-up when we hang out. I think the key is to strike a balance like you said. Some guys have the 3 strike rule, it's a good rule to live by.. but I can honestly say I've broken it a few times and was able to get the girl in the sack.. they were some of the best lays I've had, and it was all because they liked my persistancy.

Persistancy = checking up on them every once in awhile to see how they're doing.

Clingy = calling every day, twice a day. Sometimes more. Always messaging them online. Constantly worry about why they're not talking to YOU.. etc..

Honestly, the only time I usually talk to girls online/SMS/phone is to set-up a meeting. All the rest of the small talk is initiated by THEM. Occasionally, I will check up on them and talk to them for a bit if I feel them drifting away a little, just to keep my foot in the door, but never an everyday thing.
 

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This rings true with something I remember some of my female friends were telling me. They said that if they turn down a guy and then later he asks them out again, they are more likely to accept the second or third time if done in a non-needy way. They said it was 'flattering' to be 'chased' after like that, but obviously too much chasing is needy and a big turn-off.

So the moral? Chase, but not too much.
 
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