“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Text, Call, or Creep Creep On?

johnnybbad

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So I met this girl at a local bar a couple of months ago . . . I was introduced to her by her older female relative, that I knew from seeing her out in the community, trying to be a match maker . . . the girl and I struck up a conversation and it went pretty well . . . upon closing time, her relative and her asked me to go hang-out with them at someone elses house where some of the after crowd were going to hang-out at but I had to wake up early and told them that I needed to go on home to get to bed so I could get up. Told them that I would see them around and they left. I realize I should have asked for her number right then, after I didn't see her or her older relative "around" anymore . . . I was at least expecting to see her relative where I could ask her if she could ask the girl if I could get her number . . . I mentioned my mistake to a lady that knew the girls relative and she said she would call the girls relative to get me the number and I said OK. Got the number but not sure if the girl was asked if I could have it or not but I know we were hitting it off good and don't feel like should would mind if not asked . . . So I'm asking for some advice here on what to do . . . Text and say do you remember me and try to strike up a conversation if she says yes ? ? ? or call and maybe catch her off guard, not get an answer and leave a message ? ? ? or just move on for the sake of not coming off like a creep and learn from the mistake. I know no risk no reward . . . kind of leaning toward the text:confused: Any advice is appreciated.

JBB
 

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All I know is that if you do decide to text her please don't say "hey do you remember me.." .. Of course she remembers you. Confidence my friend. Just tell her who it is and maybe follow it up w/ something clever to make light of the situation.
 

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If you want to cultivate an abundance mentality (which you should) then you just move on. If you have a scarcity mindset then you risk being creepy and text. And how creepy you are perceived depends on how much she is attracted to you. Most guys that ask these questions aren't experienced in determining that yet. I say move on, let it go, and you may run into her another time.
 

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Checkmate12 said:
.. Of course she remembers you. Confidence my friend.
I see what you are saying here which goes with what Lorenzo is telling me . . .

LorenzoVonM said:
If you want to cultivate an abundance mentality (which you should) then you just move on. If you have a scarcity mindset then you risk being creepy and text. And how creepy you are perceived depends on how much she is attracted to you. Most guys that ask these questions aren't experienced in determining that yet. I say move on, let it go, and you may run into her another time.
You hit the nail on the head here I think . . . Had to research a little bit of what you were saying, because you said it, I'm not "experienced". I think this situation is the least of my worries right now and that I need to focus on progressing my understanding of myself and how relationships work ("the game" so to speak). No doubt I'm in a scarcity mindset after you helping me realize that fact. I do remember a time when I was in the abundance midset in my early 20's. Now I find my self not far from 30, with a job that keeps me socially isolated for the most part and living in a place that does the same (both very rural). So I guess my mind is more or less trained to think that way since it takes much resources and time to have an abundant social life and such. Don't get me wrong, I think I can be blamed for not putting forth more effort to think in an abundant midset and therefore being in abundance of social situations. My eyes maybe opening and I believe I have found a jumping off point here to progress myself, confidence, and skills with relationships and how they work. I have certain common senses but I believe I have lost these types (like the saying, "if you don't use it you lose it). From just the little bit of reading on this site I think the people and information I find here will be a HUGE tool to help me. Maybe I will be become experienced enough at some point to contribute help to others also! Thanks for the insight bro!
 

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No guts no glory, man. Send her ONE text with your contact info. See what happens. If she ignores it, then that's it. If she replies you ask for a day. Simple.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

LorenzoVonM

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johnnybbad said:
You hit the nail on the head here I think . . . Had to research a little bit of what you were saying, because you said it, I'm not "experienced". I think this situation is the least of my worries right now and that I need to focus on progressing my understanding of myself and how relationships work ("the game" so to speak). No doubt I'm in a scarcity mindset after you helping me realize that fact. I do remember a time when I was in the abundance midset in my early 20's. Now I find my self not far from 30, with a job that keeps me socially isolated for the most part and living in a place that does the same (both very rural). So I guess my mind is more or less trained to think that way since it takes much resources and time to have an abundant social life and such. Don't get me wrong, I think I can be blamed for not putting forth more effort to think in an abundant midset and therefore being in abundance of social situations. My eyes maybe opening and I believe I have found a jumping off point here to progress myself, confidence, and skills with relationships and how they work. I have certain common senses but I believe I have lost these types (like the saying, "if you don't use it you lose it). From just the little bit of reading on this site I think the people and information I find here will be a HUGE tool to help me. Maybe I will be become experienced enough at some point to contribute help to others also! Thanks for the insight bro!
Right on man, it sounds like you know what you have to do. I'm rooting for you.

In my opinion you should always be developing good habits. You might not get the initial gratification but the long-term payoff is that much sweeter. I liken it to learning golf. You could go out and learn yourself, hack up the course, and finally getting somewhat decent. The reality is that your swing is jacked up and you will never play in the big leagues. In order to become great and play at a higher level you now have to totally revamp your swing, but that proves hard because of the mind-muscle connection in your subconscious.

So yes you could shoot a text her way, and it may even work, but that behavior will lead to inconsistent results over the long term. Each subsequent girl you will rationalize in your head that if it worked that time then it might work again. You'll continue doing it. I know one text seems like a small thing but I believe the mindset it embeds is huge. Not to mention that getting a number from a friend of a relative of a girl months after the fact screams you have no options. Doesn't exactly put you in a power position if you start dating the girl.

When you are dealing with high quality girls that get hit on all of the time they will be able to sniff things like this out. Practicing abundance mentality, outcome independence, and the ability to walk away can be a learned habit. Let it become who you are until you don't have to fake it anymore. When you've got it then girls will feel it. It is very attractive to them because it is such a rarity with men these days. It signals that you are value. I'm not saying don't approach them and just walk away all the time. I'm saying approach them as the most powerful man you can be and have them sucked into your reality because its so strong. Again, don't think they won't feel it, girls are the master of vibe and being hit on. If they don't go for you, whatever, there's another one around the corner.
 
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