"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Testing and Nightclubs

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In nightclubs I often notice that girls will dance with their back to me and then back into me as if they want me to grab them from behind and grind them. However, whenever I have tried this they push me away! What's going on here?

Is it just all in my imagination and the girl was never interested in the first place? Or is it that she was interested but my approach was too timid or hesitant, I mean it's a big deal for me to just grab a girl from behind and so I'm afraid to grab her too forcefully in case I might upset her or any male friends she might be with. However, Recently it occurred to me that this might be her way of testing, since only an Alpha male would have the guts to grab a woman confidently and with assurance. For example, I would never thrust my hips into her backside because I feel that could really offend her, but maybe that's what she want's me to do! Could anyone say for certain if such a test exists or am I just deluded?

I have watched men in nightclubs and I could swear that this manouver is how they get with women 90% of the time. I'd love to hear some opinions on this.

Thanks for your time
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I haven't read anything on dancefloor game, but let me go on personal experience. My friends who pull girls in clubs are very good dancers. When girls do dance near them, acting like they might want to grind, they go in SLOWLY not quickly. Despite that the girl is seemingly showing signs of interest, they don't fold at the first "IOI" that a girl sends them. Instead, they might twirl the girl around and then sort of back away and start showing off their moves. The girl then responds in turn and you have a dance off going. Then, slowly, you move from a playful vibe and pull her in.

As for grinding, I wasn't really comfortable w/it at first, but after 3.5 years in college I've grown to enjoy it. I took myself way too seriously back then. It's just dancing and girls usually want it.
 

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Thanks for this. I never thought that going in slowly was an option but I'll give it a try next time.
 

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It's not a test. These women don't know you man. This is not how you run club game. Most decent women don't want some stranger getting all up on their ass grinding with boners and ****. Key word is stranger. You don't know what the relationships are between the other people you see.

Here is how you run it next time in the club. Look at the woman and get some eye contact, say hello, hold your hand out. When and if she takes your hand start dancing with her. Simple. You gave her a chance to choose you. Dance face to face, then turn her around and dance with her after while. Lead her to it. Just don't jump on some random girl and start humping like a dog.
 

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Warrior74 said:
Here is how you run it next time in the club. Look at the woman and get some eye contact, say hello, hold your hand out. When and if she takes your hand start dancing with her. Simple. You gave her a chance to choose you. Dance face to face, then turn her around and dance with her after while. Lead her to it. Just don't jump on some random girl and start humping like a dog.
this is what i do. if i catch eye contact with a girl, i'll go up to her and start dancing. i don't like flying blind. i like to catch some ioi's first.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Paintballguy said:
this is what i do. if i catch eye contact with a girl, i'll go up to her and start dancing. i don't like flying blind. i like to catch some ioi's first.
Agreed. Flying blind is dangerous! You need IOI's then you're as good as getting guided by GPS.
 

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Warrior74 said:
It's not a test. These women don't know you man. This is not how you run club game. Most decent women don't want some stranger getting all up on their ass grinding with boners and ****. Key word is stranger. You don't know what the relationships are between the other people you see.

Here is how you run it next time in the club. Look at the woman and get some eye contact, say hello, hold your hand out. When and if she takes your hand start dancing with her. Simple. You gave her a chance to choose you. Dance face to face, then turn her around and dance with her after while. Lead her to it. Just don't jump on some random girl and start humping like a dog.
Haha your posts always crack me up, not only because what you're saying is true but I see the frustration from lack of understanding by some. You've been doing this a long time man!
 

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I'd just say hold on for a good 7-8 seconds, after that if she is still struggling to break-free, let her go no matter what.

YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT, TRUST ME.
 
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