"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Telling a girl early on that you are dating other women

Ricky

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I was wondering if any of you have told a girl you just started dating that you are dating other women as well.

I was thinking of using this with a girl that has been giving me a bit of trouble with our schedules. We are both busy, but she just started being a bit inflexible about her times for a date.

So I thought of saying "Look let me know about this Saturday because if you can't go out to celebrate with me, I'll probably go out with INSERT GIRLS NAME instead"

Now she could tell you to go to hell, just wasn't sure what you guys have seen on this.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Desdinova

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I just never give her a straight answer when she asks me.

Her: are you dating anyone else?
Me: Yeah, Mariah Carey, Britney Spears, Vanna White, Pat Sajak, and Marilyn Munroe.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Nothing should need to be said as long as no commitment is implied. Don't lead her on but don't deny that you 'see' other people. The word 'dating' tends to convey exclusivity so I try to avoid it unless I decide to 'consider' a LTR with a woman.
 

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Whenever I've discussed dating, where I'm from, I've never had a mutually agreed understanding to what it means.

Annoying to say the least.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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becker

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I always thought that dating meant that you were seeing other women at the same time, nothing exclusive.
 

Marcopolo

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If she is giving you a hard time you can drop some hints but never tell her directly. When she asks then do not give a straight answer. Don't do this if you are committed though, just very early in the seduction. Basically, if she jerks you around make yourself appear busy to her, and act vague while injecting some humor. Curiousity and not knowing what is going on drives women crazy, and anything that drives a woman crazy like this it is a great way IMO to jumpstart their interest level, if there is any potential to begin with.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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If you told one of your buds that your were 'dating' a girl named Sharon, what would they think? Would they think that you were 'seeing' several different women or just Sharon?
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by Marcopolo
If she is giving you a hard time you can drop some hints but never tell her directly...
D@mn, I hate it when women drop me hints, even if they're obvious. I still just make them tell me outright. Otherwise we'd be wasting time and effort just playing games. I don't know, I guess I'm not afraid to tell a woman that I don't want to be committed right now.
 

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I misread the original post. As I understood, this woman was playing games with him or is not all that interested. I thought his idea was to play games back with her by telling her he is seeing other women(regardless of whether he actually is seeing other women, but just for social proof and to make her insecure/jealous so she will want him more). My advice is based on that premise. I suppose someone will tell me that is it morally wrong or un-DJ like to manipulate women like that? They do it to guys all the time. I don't play games with women unless they start play games first. Myself, I prefer being straightforward with them.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Originally posted by Ricky
I was wondering if any of you have told a girl you just started dating that you are dating other women as well.

I was thinking of using this with a girl that has been giving me a bit of trouble with our schedules. We are both busy, but she just started being a bit inflexible about her times for a date.

So I thought of saying "Look let me know about this Saturday because if you can't go out to celebrate with me, I'll probably go out with INSERT GIRLS NAME instead"

Now she could tell you to go to hell, just wasn't sure what you guys have seen on this.
Ricky. Don't ACT like it. Just BE that.
Don't tell her "I'll go out with Cindy if you can't make it"
Just go out with Cindy.
Tell the other bird later that she missed out on the fun.

Oh, and just hang out with whoever you want. who cares
what they think. When I have many women in the picture, if it comes up I'm usually pretty honest about it. I say something like "There are a few women who I enjoy spending time with"
but nothing more than that, or you're just being hurtful, or a gossipy *****.
 

diplomatic_lie

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You shouldn't tell her, just do it like whathisname said.

Never toot your own horn, let your actions speak for themselves.

Whenever people tell me something good about them, my first thought is "This guy is such a loser, he has to tell people he is cool".
 

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Subcommunicate..
when she sees that you dont need her she will assume that... if she asks be blunt that youre looking..
 

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Tell her you need that you need more flexibility in her schedule. If she can't do it, than move on, but theres no need to throw dirt in her face. You definetly don't wanna be a name dropper.

Mr. Mystery
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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