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Master Don Juan
When meeting for the first time?? Not for me, bro.I disagree completely. Nothing wrong with feigning a little vulnerability at the right times. It's part of push n pull.
I don't do push/pull either. I only pull.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
When meeting for the first time?? Not for me, bro.I disagree completely. Nothing wrong with feigning a little vulnerability at the right times. It's part of push n pull.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Of course not when you first meet.When meeting for the first time?? Not for me, bro.
I don't do push/pull either. I only pull.
"when meeting for the first time" is in the first sentence of the original post.Of course not when you first meet.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I didn't realize it was their first time meeting.You've already provided details of yourself: where you live, what you do for work, etc. That is all boring/comfort/rapport. "So, tell me something about yourself" is taking things to the level of a job interview; it's starting to sound like she's giving you a hoop to jump through or maybe just uninspired. My standard line for this kind of information sh*t-test is "I could just tell you, but where's the fun in that?", or you can always take things to the absurd level - as others have already put.
Perhaps you are referring to Robert Greene's 12th law of power?
Use Selective Honesty And Generosity To Disarm Your Victim
A very powerful technique, but should be used on our own terms. It should be used sparingly. Also, remember the 4th law of power:
Always say less than is necessary.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Well it was just off the top of my head. I guess its revealing something about yourself without revealing yourself and keeping her wanting more. Otherwise you might seem boring or lacking social skills or something to that extent. Idk.Sprayarc, your suggestion to tell her you really like dogs is interesting... Recently, when I insisted that the girl had to be more specific with her question before I could answer, she said "Hmmm, well for example do you own a dog?"
Another of her responses was: "Well, what's your motto in life?"
Way to intense. Stop taking everything so seriously. You need to lighten up."Tell me something about yourself".
It's a horsesh!t "question" that demonstrates low social intelligence. That is not how people naturally converse.
Plus, self-reporting is garbage.
You don't learn anything worth knowing about a person by having them talk about themselves. You do that by talking about "stuff" and allowing them to gradually reveal their preferences and opinions about the world.
The nuclear option (always fun) is "That's a horsesh!t question and you know it. Why don't you tell me what you think about..."
You're taking back the frame and showing her how to have a real conversation. Jesus they're hard work sometimes.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.