speed dawg
Master Don Juan
When meeting for the first time?? Not for me, bro.I disagree completely. Nothing wrong with feigning a little vulnerability at the right times. It's part of push n pull.
I don't do push/pull either. I only pull.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
When meeting for the first time?? Not for me, bro.I disagree completely. Nothing wrong with feigning a little vulnerability at the right times. It's part of push n pull.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Of course not when you first meet.When meeting for the first time?? Not for me, bro.
I don't do push/pull either. I only pull.
"when meeting for the first time" is in the first sentence of the original post.Of course not when you first meet.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I didn't realize it was their first time meeting.You've already provided details of yourself: where you live, what you do for work, etc. That is all boring/comfort/rapport. "So, tell me something about yourself" is taking things to the level of a job interview; it's starting to sound like she's giving you a hoop to jump through or maybe just uninspired. My standard line for this kind of information sh*t-test is "I could just tell you, but where's the fun in that?", or you can always take things to the absurd level - as others have already put.
Perhaps you are referring to Robert Greene's 12th law of power?
Use Selective Honesty And Generosity To Disarm Your Victim
A very powerful technique, but should be used on our own terms. It should be used sparingly. Also, remember the 4th law of power:
Always say less than is necessary.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Well it was just off the top of my head. I guess its revealing something about yourself without revealing yourself and keeping her wanting more. Otherwise you might seem boring or lacking social skills or something to that extent. Idk.Sprayarc, your suggestion to tell her you really like dogs is interesting... Recently, when I insisted that the girl had to be more specific with her question before I could answer, she said "Hmmm, well for example do you own a dog?"
Another of her responses was: "Well, what's your motto in life?"
Way to intense. Stop taking everything so seriously. You need to lighten up."Tell me something about yourself".
It's a horsesh!t "question" that demonstrates low social intelligence. That is not how people naturally converse.
Plus, self-reporting is garbage.
You don't learn anything worth knowing about a person by having them talk about themselves. You do that by talking about "stuff" and allowing them to gradually reveal their preferences and opinions about the world.
The nuclear option (always fun) is "That's a horsesh!t question and you know it. Why don't you tell me what you think about..."
You're taking back the frame and showing her how to have a real conversation. Jesus they're hard work sometimes.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.