"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Tell me about tinder

BraddH

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Tinder.

Is it worth it? Do most of the girls just troll there?

Is it a place for above aversge looking?

How to maximize your results?

Pictures?

Profile picture?

Does it look like youve put too much effort if you get a proper professionally made pic?

Anyone a pro on this app?
 
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Bingo-Player

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1) i wouldn't say its my main source of women I've had a couple of bangs out of it but generally tend not to waste too much time on it anymore , its a woman's battle ground not a mans they will always have the upper hand whilst they aren't forced to commit to anything on there and have orbiters and noobs calling them beautiful

2) no necessarily i find theres a broad spectrum of looks on it kind of like something for everyone

3) i use one selfie , one pic with a friend and one pic of my abs (although thinking about removing this )

4) same answer as above

5) yes no need for it

6) not a pro no , not sure how you can be a pro unless you have a hell of a lot of spare time and move from city to city very quicky and mass match women on your travels copy & paste is your friend in this scenario
 

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Tinder.

Is it worth it? Do most of the girls just troll there?

Is it a place for above aversge looking?

How to maximize your results?

Pictures?

Profile picture?

Does it look like youve put too much effort if you get a proper professionally made pic?

Anyone a pro on this app?
Listen, you need to download the app and try it out. "Success" in online dating is individual based, not group based. I do pretty good with it, but then again my target market is mainly black women as well and black women might not be getting as MANY messages on online dating sites as compared to white women.....thus they are more accessible.
 

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I use it and live in a major metro area and travel within that area so wherever I go I'm always on it. I use it when I'm sitting in traffic or waiting and have nothing better to do. I for sure wouldn't carve out time in my day to use it. Its not productive at all, but its so easy and when ever you have an idle minute or two its not a bad idea. There are all types of girls.
 

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I can only speak from personal experience so here's my take.

I rate myself a 7 in looks, I match with HB4s to 8s.

Generally speaking, anything below your physical SMV of 2 points you have no problems pulling/banging. You just need to ask them out.

Anything remotely close to HB6 and I have to put extra effort to even get a date and my batting rate is pretty dismal for beyond 6 OLD.

If you are a 8 or 9 on the SMV scale like guru1000 or marmel75 is, OLD is like shooting fish in a barrel. 7 and below and the effort reward ratio goes down dramatically.

I'd say OLD you need to rely on looks more than game since the bigger better deal is always one swipe away. Being virtual exemplifies the need for raw attraction.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Who Dares Win

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I would say it depends on your looks and your pictures as much as your location.

Im not that goodlooking a 6 probably, average at most and surely my pictures are not anything special.

While my personality is great and allows me to score way above my league, it doesnt matter much since what gets you in or out is YOUR MAIN PROFILE PICTURE, no matter what you write in your bio if they dont read it.

About results, in south Europe they are very low and not with local girls, southern euro girls are not that hot anyway while the competition is routhless.

Central and eastern Europe is much better more girls and more good looking as average while the competion decrease, easy to talk and date normal girls, easy to bang normal older girls (28+) but still very hard when it comes of young hot girls, few matches and a high silence rate.

Thats my experience, if you are a tall white guy with masculine features then your experience may be great.

As they told you anyway its a womans battleground.

In my real life I had sex and relationships with girls up to 8s and messed around with a couple of 9s, in tinder nowhere as close, the goodlooking ones I met or banged from there were mentally insane and the sane ones were average at the most or older.

Also keep in mind that being average and meeting average girls in spain compared to norway provides a total different experience, where you get a short fat girl in a case, you get a normal framed blonde in the other.
 

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I would say it depends on your looks and your pictures as much as your location.

Im not that goodlooking a 6 probably, average at most and surely my pictures are not anything special.

While my personality is great and allows me to score way above my league, it doesnt matter much since what gets you in or out is YOUR MAIN PROFILE PICTURE, no matter what you write in your bio if they dont read it.

About results, in south Europe they are very low and not with local girls, southern euro girls are not that hot anyway while the competition is routhless.

Central and eastern Europe is much better more girls and more good looking as average while the competion decrease, easy to talk and date normal girls, easy to bang normal older girls (28+) but still very hard when it comes of young hot girls, few matches and a high silence rate.

Thats my experience, if you are a tall white guy with masculine features then your experience may be great.

As they told you anyway its a womans battleground.

In my real life I had sex and relationships with girls up to 8s and messed around with a couple of 9s, in tinder nowhere as close, the goodlooking ones I met or banged from there were mentally insane and the sane ones were average at the most or older.

Also keep in mind that being average and meeting average girls in spain compared to norway provides a total different experience, where you get a short fat girl in a case, you get a normal framed blonde in the other.
Are you saying that the fat girl is in norway? Im in Finland and I get tons and tons of more results gaming in real life and cold approaching than online dating. Do you the reasons for this? I have no problem cold approaching, closing and gaming etc face to face. I guess finnish people are very introverted and they fantasize the idea of being approached because nobody does that here.
 

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If you are a 8 or 9 on the SMV scale like guru1000 or marmel75 is, OLD is like shooting fish in a barrel. .
Have you seen pics of Guru and Marmel lol? Just wondering why you say they are an 8 or 9 because I personally haven't seen one pic of them.

If you fall as a 6 or a 7 on the Looks, Personality, and Finances measurement, you should be doing okay with OLD in terms of HB 6 and higher women. You just have to deal with the stuff that comes with those women, such as high maintenance attitudes, they might have bad finances, and they might have a kid by Ray Ray.
 

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Are you saying that the fat girl is in norway? Im in Finland and I get tons and tons of more results gaming in real life and cold approaching than online dating. Do you the reasons for this? I have no problem cold approaching, closing and gaming etc face to face. I guess finnish people are very introverted and they fantasize the idea of being approached because nobody does that here.
I said the exact opposite actually.

An average girl in norway is a good option to me while with average girls in spain I even had drops in libido after stripping them naked but guess the drama they create is part of that.

I dont know about finnish girls, never been there but guess they are closer to the norwegian ones in terms of look.

Thats why I said an average girl is neither a good or bad thing, it simply depends on the average of the place, in case of norway its really a good deal.
 

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In an effort to keep women interested in Tinder, they have been marketing themselves to women like a dating site, not a hookup app.

I really hate the way Tinder interfaces with facebook. I think it's possible to make a 2nd facebook account just for tinder, but you need to add a hundred friends or so before Tinder accepts that fb account as real. Tinder used to have a policy of not showing your fb friends as matches, but I think they dropped that rule.

I haven't seen anyone on here talk about using Twitter to meet girls, but I have seen those hookups happen as well.

I use Fetlife. It was great until I ran through all of the local women, then not so much. I did get a lay off of Fetlife last weekend. She wasn't that hot, but she solicited me. Her first message was like, hey I have a hotel room...come over. LOL That never happened on Plenty of Fish.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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In an effort to keep women interested in Tinder, they have been marketing themselves to women like a dating site, not a hookup app.

I really hate the way Tinder interfaces with facebook. I think it's possible to make a 2nd facebook account just for tinder, but you need to add a hundred friends or so before Tinder accepts that fb account as real. Tinder used to have a policy of not showing your fb friends as matches, but I think they dropped that rule.

I haven't seen anyone on here talk about using Twitter to meet girls, but I have seen those hookups happen as well.

I use Fetlife. It was great until I ran through all of the local women, then not so much. I did get a lay off of Fetlife last weekend. She wasn't that hot, but she solicited me. Her first message was like, hey I have a hotel room...come over. LOL That never happened on Plenty of Fish.
strange a friend of mine don't have facebook and he created one upload some photos and then deleted it

thing on all dating app or sites you need to undertand is, its a meat market then woman have the advantage, don't matter how ugly, fat and old she there is someone willing to tap that, plus it will depend on how good you look on your profile pic to at least get some look, and then how good you are with texts, and in the end you shouldn't take any girl you meet on tinder serious, is pump and dump
 

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Not sure if it's like this everywhere else, but in my cities Tinder has mostly fatties and you could only swipe 20-30 girls a day. 1 or 2 years ago it was kind of okay when it was relatively new. Now that it's mainstream is sucks.
 

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They should make an update that deletes all profile that havent been used for more than 3 months.

And it would be much better if users who match then dont reply to message get banned after few cases.

That would stop the men spamming and the women playing princess.

The last thing they did instead was removing the "last seen" info therefore you dont know if you are writing or liking someone who doesnt even use the program from months.
 

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Don't waste your time with Tinder or any OLD apps. Most of the women are trash. Its nothing but a headache with all the flakes. They never look as good as they do in there pics either. I had the worst date in my entire life on Sat night. I met her on Tinder and she turned out to be a feminist.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I love Tinder.

I don't know what I am 1-10 and don't want to rate myself. But I have tattoos, fight as a hobby, and am strong as fvck. So I feel I might be swinging a lot of raw attraction points.

I say, get a picture that shows off your face, one of you doing a hobby (if it's attractive, if you're playing PlayStation, ditch it), and one with friends. Then one of your body if it's worth showing.

Have light-hearted exchanges and don't view it as more than a game.

I haven't really had any women use me for attention. Not noticeably anyway. I've definitely put maybe a day's worth of Tinder communication only to have her go cold, but the majority of women I speak to (that reply back) want to continue speaking and meet in person.

I've yet to have a woman flake. I think in the six weeks or so I've had the app I've met seven women and screwed five of them. I'd say most of the women I banged were hot. Some were more crazy than others. Tread lightly. It seems like a lot of women on Tinder ARE normal and either don't have a lot of free time, or just don't have an accessible means of meeting men. Other women carry their dog with them and tell you how much they hate their boyfriend. Honestly, it's not much different than going to a bar, but you can work it at home while you're relaxing watching a movie or playing video games or whatever.

My ultimate opinion is that it's just a tool to meet more women. You might meet one you really like on there, but it's doubtful... but, no matter how you slice it, the amount of time and effort required for Tinder vs the reward (sex, or more rare, a relationship), is probably always worth it. Just mash the like button and filter your actual matches.
 

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I think it's possible to make a 2nd facebook account just for tinder, but you need to add a hundred friends or so before Tinder accepts that fb account as real.
You need 50 but you also have to do SMS verification now. It's easy getting that many friends, though. Just random-add a few people (from your favourite alt-right meme page for example) and then add a few of their friends and repeat. You can add hundreds of people in a few minutes and most of them will accept and not delete you because you have mutual friends.
 

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tinder plus is a big advantaghe, and when you run out of action a safe bet is to delete your account, and unlink it from facebook ( in your facebook apps section) and then start again. you also dont want to be liking everything because the way the algorythgm works it will place you in a undesirable category, overall iv gotten about 5-6 lays from there and one girl iv been seing for 8 months., i think its like going to abar, but easier... just be creative and original
 

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It's a great app. The big x-factor is if you have a good instagram feed linked. 6 pictures is okay, but if you have 100+ beautiful pics over your life then you can expect many matches with girls that message first.
 

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I believe if you get a match on Tinder, you have a better chance of getting a date and the woman's attention than other OLD sites.

On other OLD sites, women get overwhelmed with the 200 messages a day they receive. Women don't use Tinder like men do. They are way more selective when swiping right. So when there is a match you have a better shot of something coming out of it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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