"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Do not tease women online. It is a BAD thing to do they cannot see you and they have no idea whether you are being serious or not. If you are a beginner like I am go easy on the C&F.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Looks like you lost a chance to build some rapport there, could have talked about music instead of trying to be so ****y.

You're trying to take everything the girl says, no matter how big or small, and turn it into an excuse to make fun of her. There's a real chance she was trying to find out some of the music perhaps you were interested in... so as to get to know you better. Who knows.

Don't try to "one-up" her all the time. The secret to being ****y is to have the girl actually enjoy the experience.

I agree with dotcom too.


"Yeah, I love some of those classic songs too. We'll talk more next time we get together.... (set up date).
 

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Wow man, if i was a girl i would feel like slapping you. Being rude like this is NOT a turn on. You are being too mean in a wrong way at the wrong time. And you are asking if u are doing something wrong? Would u appreciate getting an email like that yourself?? I think u just answered ur own question
 

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I did this when I was starting to get a hang of this stuff. I went so overboard with the ****y thing that it was obvious I was trying way, way too hard to be "the man".

What I didn't know then, that I do now, is that WOMEN SEE RIGHT THROUGH IT. She knows you're being all tough trying to impress her, that you probably just want to sleep with her, but that you're too insecure to hold a real conversation.

Not to be too hard on you, because I was the same way. Now you know better.
 

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Thanks guys. I agree using c&f in person would be more productive then through an email.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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She was looking for sympathy and you called her lying thief and slammed her religion. WTF??!! :confused: I'm seeing more and more exactly what is meant by emails can't show tone or body language. Those are the things guys typically rely on because they can't convey much more than c/f in an email. :rolleyes:
 

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Eh, I just think she's a boring, humorless woman. You can overdo c&f obviously.
 

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Yikes. You definitely went overboard. It would have been ok if you had just bagged on her for one of those things and then made the rest of the email normal/conversational. You totally dissected everything she said and ripped her a new one. Looks like youre dissing her bigtime and not jokingly.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Although he went a little overboard, she could have met him halfway and laughed it off. She clearly has no sense of humour and fun.
 
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