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Tall girl and short guy

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Ok, so short guys are usually worried about their height, especially around taller women. I am a short guy my self so I know the feeling. And some girls actually say that they prefer taller guys, and maybe deep down they do, but I have a great story to tell to help relieve some of the pressure of being short.

Last year I tutored a 6 foot tall blonde girl, about a 7.5, not too shabby. After the tutoring ended we hung out a few times, lunch happy hour, very casual stuff. I never tried to advance because I thought she would think that I was too short, blah,blah, wuss stuff. So I always treated her like just a friend and was completely indifferent (more on this later).

Anyway, she contacted me a few weeks ago to ask about "relationship advice" out of nowhere. I gave her the standard reply, do whatever makes you happy and switched topics. Yesterday, she stopped by my office to chat. So we chatted. She told me how she is dating a new guy and he is 5-6!! I needed to get info here. I asked her, doesnt it make you feel weird to be with a short guy? She said

"...no, its all about the type of presence they carry. I dont even notice the height unless we are dancing or something like that."

I have other girls I am talking to so I am not trying to escalate this chick, but I needed to know more about the tall-short dynamics. So I said that I feel weird with tall chicks because its hard to put my arm around them or some bs...she said

"..a lot of guys miss out because of this. In fact, I used to have a crush on you. I never cared about your height because you never showed any insecurity about it so I just noticed you. And I feel insecure about being too tall sometimes...I dont get approached as much as you think...most guys are afraid or something I think."

So going back to what I said earlier, my complete indifference is what she liked and the fact that I was confident. At the same time, less guys are going after tall girls, at least less AFCs are anyway. So this increases your chances of getting with them. Its also another verification of the rule that CONFIDENCE AND INDIFFERENCE TRUMPS EVERYTHING!!!

Now, she invited me to a party she is having and said she has a bunch of her friends she wants me to meet.

Moral of the story, carry a strong and confident presence at all times and you appear bigger than you really are.
 

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I would almost agree with you. But not quite. Height matters most to women who are about 5'6 to 5'9. Below that, and they don't care too much because pretty much every guy is taller than they and it's not a big deal. But, surprisingly, TALLER than that and they don't care so much either because many men are shorter than they.

I'm about 5'8 and have had little problem dating women who are 5'11 and up. In fact I've dated a couple of women who were about 6'0 and towered over me. They even wore high-heels. It was fun but I tend to like petite women so I dumped them. And yes I dumped them, not the other way around.

However, I have a hard time dating women who are within an inch or two of my height. They seem to be very sensitive to it.
 

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Mex said:
Its also another verification of the rule that CONFIDENCE AND INDIFFERENCE TRUMPS EVERYTHING!!!
...with women who don't have height as one of their dealbreakers. Unfortunately for the height-challenged man, IT IS ONE for the majority of women.


Zarky said:
Height matters most to women who are about 5'6 to 5'9. Below that, and they don't care too much because pretty much every guy is taller than they and it's not a big deal. But, surprisingly, TALLER than that and they don't care so much either because many men are shorter than they.
Plus the fact that for the taller woman (let's say 5'11"), the pool of taller (6'+), quality men is rather small so she either has wait a long time to find "a good one" OR she has to... err... "lower" (pardon the pun) her height standards. :D
 

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Hello Mex,
I think there is just a bit of wishful thinking in your Post...."I used to have a crush on you. I never cared about your height because you never showed any insecurity about it so I just noticed you. And I feel insecure about being too tall sometimes"...could be but is a little unusual...On my Dancing scene there are two spectacularly tall Girls,one Latvian the other a Muscovite,they are both well over six foot,and both wear four inch heels,I am six foot and felt dwarfed when I danced with one of them,but when it comes to hauteur these Ladies have it in Hearts...interesting though neither has a Feller.
 

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height is just a limting beleif for you shorties, you get in your head and will rationalise "im too short" instead of going for it... and if she isnt into you, meh, whatever!

for every girl who dosent like your appreance(or sepcifics of it), there is one who does (or is indifferent to them)
 

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Mex said:
Ok, so short guys are usually worried about their height, especially around taller women. I am a short guy my self so I know the feeling. And some girls actually say that they prefer taller guys, and maybe deep down they do, but I have a great story to tell to help relieve some of the pressure of being short.

Last year I tutored a 6 foot tall blonde girl, about a 7.5, not too shabby. After the tutoring ended we hung out a few times, lunch happy hour, very casual stuff. I never tried to advance because I thought she would think that I was too short, blah,blah, wuss stuff. So I always treated her like just a friend and was completely indifferent (more on this later).

Anyway, she contacted me a few weeks ago to ask about "relationship advice" out of nowhere. I gave her the standard reply, do whatever makes you happy and switched topics. Yesterday, she stopped by my office to chat. So we chatted. She told me how she is dating a new guy and he is 5-6!! I needed to get info here. I asked her, doesnt it make you feel weird to be with a short guy? She said

"...no, its all about the type of presence they carry. I dont even notice the height unless we are dancing or something like that."

I have other girls I am talking to so I am not trying to escalate this chick, but I needed to know more about the tall-short dynamics. So I said that I feel weird with tall chicks because its hard to put my arm around them or some bs...she said

"..a lot of guys miss out because of this. In fact, I used to have a crush on you. I never cared about your height because you never showed any insecurity about it so I just noticed you. And I feel insecure about being too tall sometimes...I dont get approached as much as you think...most guys are afraid or something I think."

So going back to what I said earlier, my complete indifference is what she liked and the fact that I was confident. At the same time, less guys are going after tall girls, at least less AFCs are anyway. So this increases your chances of getting with them. Its also another verification of the rule that CONFIDENCE AND INDIFFERENCE TRUMPS EVERYTHING!!!

Now, she invited me to a party she is having and said she has a bunch of her friends she wants me to meet.

Moral of the story, carry a strong and confident presence at all times and you appear bigger than you really are.
Height matters - and it doesn't.

Different girls weigh height differently. Most girls *prefer* a guy to be taller than them but mitigating factors do exist.
 

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Zarky said:
I would almost agree with you. But not quite. Height matters most to women who are about 5'6 to 5'9. Below that, and they don't care too much because pretty much every guy is taller than they and it's not a big deal. But, surprisingly, TALLER than that and they don't care so much either because many men are shorter than they.
Even though the typical 5'5" woman does not need to have a really tall man, she is still going to want him to be a an inch or two taller. Fortunately for these women - especially within the white population - 90% of men are at least 5'7". This still means that many 5'5" women are heightist.

As for the 5'10" woman, it is the converse situation as a suitably tall man enough at least 6'0 starts to be at the diminishing portion of the population. And since so many of those 5'6 to 5'9" are so heightist, such men are hard to come by, so the taller woman just gives up and figures that in any case, *she* is tall, so her sons will be tall. And as the shorter woman needs a tall man to make sure that her sons will be short, and therefore have a difficult time finding a decent mate, she has mach stronger desire for the taller sperm donor,

I speak as a 5'5" man that realizes that his height has caused considerable difficulties in picking up women. And yes, I'm pissed about it. :mad:
 

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MatureDJ said:
that his height has caused considerable difficulties in picking up women. And yes, I'm pissed about it. :mad:
You and me both :box: (Little man rage)
 

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Zarky said:
I would almost agree with you. But not quite. Height matters most to women who are about 5'6 to 5'9. Below that, and they don't care too much because pretty much every guy is taller than they and it's not a big deal. But, surprisingly, TALLER than that and they don't care so much either because many men are shorter than they.

I'm about 5'8 and have had little problem dating women who are 5'11 and up. In fact I've dated a couple of women who were about 6'0 and towered over me. They even wore high-heels. It was fun but I tend to like petite women so I dumped them. And yes I dumped them, not the other way around.

However, I have a hard time dating women who are within an inch or two of my height. They seem to be very sensitive to it.
This is spot on my experience too. I'm your height and I've had women over 5'11 (tallest being almost 6'2"). The ones between 5'6 and 5'9, oddly enough, tend to keep bugging me on exactly how tall I am and tend to bring up related issues all the time.

Personally I'm confident enough with my height and find it easier to game the ones who are significantly taller than me.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I am about 5'7" and being on the short side does limit options. With that said, I have dated several women taller than me. Even dated some that were using the laundry list of 5'11" or taller. It is really how you present yourself.

Would I like to be taller? Sure... but not much I can do about it. Like others have eluded to, get in great shape and be confident. It works wonders!!! When you are in good shape your confidence is much better.

If they taller than you are, JUST KEEP THEM LYING DOWN AND NO ONE WILL NOTICE.
 

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It is a myth that women are attracted to tall guys. Women’s are attracted to a guy with a good mentality and not for his personality. Short guy can gain rapport much easier with girls than taller guys. This can be done by framing positive thoughts in their mind which can gain confidence within self and with this magnetically girls will start attracting.
 

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Even if your height disqualifies you from a particular subset of girls, it shouldn't change your attitude in the least. The guys that complain about height are the ones that haven't successfully reframed their rejections.

It doesn't matter if you get rejected 99 out of 100 times; with a big enough sample size, the 1% that DOES find you attractive is pretty significant. Of course, this is hyperbole, because even with a rudimentary knowledge of game, you will succeed more than 1% of the time.

Height matters to a particular subset of girls, and if you're on the shorter side, you will experience a bit more rejection...but EVERYONE has their disqualifying traits! It's a bit silly to whine that you can't attract EVERY single girl; how many do you realistically need?

Your state should remain the same whether you get rejected once or one hundred times. Rejection DOESN'T MATTER! Treat Game as simply a problem to be solved and accept that rejection is what ultimately brings you closer to your goal. If you are a scientist, you don't expect progress to come without failure...so be it with Game.

Sinn has given great talks about the importance of plowing and reframing "nos" as "not yets." This absolutely true in my experience; sometimes, rejection is just a s#it test! The way to pass it is to stay the course without sulking.
 

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height is just an excuse by your egos for why you get rejected, ... there LOTS of things that could disqulify you , height is a very minor one... and you cant do sweet Fu.ck All about it so why worry...

it only matters if you think it matters.... like a self fulfilling prophecy
 

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Mex said:
Now, she invited me to a party she is having and said she has a bunch of her friends she wants me to meet.
So what happened at the party ?


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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Everyone will see it differently...what do they say about attraction that it isn't a choice.

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jophil28 said:
So what happened at the party ?


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I met her friends. There was one really good-looking girl, and one okay. The hot one was being hit on by everyone there. I spoke to her for a little, but I did not do a good job to get her interest so I just ignored her. Then I talked to the so-so girl. She is a resident at the univ hospital here, so she has her $hyt together it seems like. I took her email, and asked her to hang out, but never got a response.
 
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