"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Drones200

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Ok im asking for links or advice in conversations with girls.

I can talk on and on with my girl-friends but when is someone i want to hook up with i totally go blank sometimes. Sometimes. Its happening again im talking to these girl in the phone i know pretty much everything about her and she knows things about me, i call her today and ask her if she wants to go to the mall or something later and she says maybe later if shes not busy because shes painting the house. So i tell her if she needs some help and shes like nah but she will ask her dad if someone else can come help*me*. So w.e after that i had nothing to say i whent blank we had an akward pause * i hate those* and i whent to say these story about me and some ice incident she laughed a bit but contributed nothing, ended up saying she had to go and maybe will call me later to see about that being busy or not.

Wasnt that bad but i need to do better and i dont know how. When we are in person i dont know what to bring up in conversations and she stays quiet, any help?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Conversation isn't difficult when you're dealing with a chick who'se interested in you.

Maybe later if she's not busy because she's painting the house
Dis-interest.

She didn't want you to go and help her
Dis-interest. (you shouldn't of actually offered your help after she declined your offer to go the mall or 'something' later)

Things to note:

She ended the call, not you.
You are waiting on her for your plans tonight.

I'd assume she isn't interested and move on . . . withdraw interest, don't contact her . . . she may get in touch with you and be more keen if she really is interested but I wouldn't hold my breath.

One big problem I note is that you're being too nice, thinking you must actually have a conversation on the phone (really, you don't.. use it for arranging things and that's it. If she shows any lack of interest just say you have to go, and if she says she might call you later tell her nah don't 'cos you're making other plans) and you're way too easy and available.

The Muscly Jerk
 

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Actually she called me to go help her after that i just camed back from her house and i did some kimo in our conversations she only told me to stop once but in the cutest way . Im still not sure though, im getting mixed bives but these is the 2nd time i being to her house.
 

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Whatever, whether she's interested you or not shouldn't really bother you. The more important thing here is working on your interaction with women, or people in general.

It will take you half of your life to learn how to interact with women based on reading text. You need to watch successful people to be a successful person. Whether it be a movie, a successful man at a club, or a friend.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Body language, conversation, and timing are a few qualities that good conversationalists have. Imitate successful people, learn from them, and then make it your own based on your interests and personality.
 

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musclyjerk said:
One big problem I note is that you're being too nice, thinking you must actually have a conversation on the phone (really, you don't.. use it for arranging things and that's it.

Actually, some of my best successes have come from having conversations on the phone before asking them out.
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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