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one of them nay girls who i fvck who has BFs was over last night... we were getting it in from the back (2nd straight time after 1st is always GREAT)...

while we're doing it her BF keeps calling her... about 10 times in a row...

finally i tell her to answer...

but i don't stop... she carries on the conversation with her BF about what dinner plate set to buy at the store (he was there and didn't know which ones to buy because she was supposed to go with him but didn't because - - - i asked her to do something more exciting).... at the same time i'm destroying her... so much so that she had to hang up the phone and claim she got disconnected 3 times, so she could let out huge orgasms....

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the whole point of this post is this: during this whole event she was getting wetter than she's ever been! it was turning her on to talk to the provider nice guy in her life - while the badboy lover was giving her what she doesn't get from him.... she and other women get extremely excited when things like this occur (same for doing it in parents house where you could get caught)

i kept putting myself in his shoes - and being like "wow, you can NEVER know your girl is cheating on you or not. this guy thinks she's driving to her girlfriends house - and her @ss is in the air getting pounded by some other man"... he's on speakerphone like "i dunno, the black ones are $110, and the ones that look oriental are $180... is this too much?" blah blah blah... and in his world - she's being a good girlfriend on the other side of the phone.

i found it disgusting, funny, and in my own way erotic...

and this my friends - is why i have many women... and do not keep attachment... there's a lesson here... maybe it's a lesson for me to learn, or for her to learn or for you to learn....
 

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It happened a similar thing to me but we finished from 20 minutes and we were just talking in the bed.
She pretended to be sleeping and that he awoke her,actually it wasnt funny for me,i felt like a bastard to did that to an other man.
 

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Son of anarchy said:
It happened a similar thing to me but we finished from 20 minutes and we were just talking in the bed.
She pretended to be sleeping and that he awoke her,actually it wasnt funny for me,i felt like a bastard to did that to an other man.
i have my moments of being disgusted with the events i do (about a month ago a girl and her boyfriend had a very loving conversation on speakerphone while she was driving me to dinner; a dinner that she was paying for with his money; i had trouble keeping the rapport with her the whole night because i just kept remembering how loving their conversation was. and it makes me sad for the human condition.)... but being in MLTRs (mostly with taken women because single women are much harder to keep in MLTRs) - - - i'm kind of use to it. and mostly numb to it...

what was also disgusting me was the reliance he had on her to do everything for her... .she suggested he just picked out what he wanted. and he recanted with "no, i want to get what you want" to which she rolled her eyes and shook her head then said "ok, we'll go this weekend"... she then asked him to pick out an iron (they're moving into a house together) to which he replied "i don't know which one to get; there's so many"....... and like 30 seconds of silence while he looked at irons and mumbled to himself over the phone ........ more silence..... "which one should i get?"............. i wanted to choke the dude... I didn't feel one bit sorry for him... i could see clearly through that phone call why she isn't turned on by him anymore... and why someone like me (who doesn't give a sh!t about her opinions on anything) got her into bed.
 
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"during this whole event she was getting wetter than she's ever been!"
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"im doing something very bad and it's turning me on"! - THIS GENTLEMAN IS THE GREATEST FEELING (besides orgasming) THAT YOU CAN GIVE A WOMAN IN BED.... i've experiemented with TONS of women, and all different styles of $ex from tantric, to love making, to porno style, to downright nasty.... and the best is always with a REACTIVE woman, when we are doing something very bad (i had sex with a woman in her house with her bf upstairs playing video games) and she was so wet and horny that i literally had to stop pull out and clean her with a towel because she was too slippery.

You can also make her feel this feeling without the boyfriend (and possiblity of death lol) by doing taboo stuff with her - like having sex with the windows open in full view of the world outside... having sex on webcam... video taping... doing it in a parking lot in the middle of the day... etc... all these things and many other taboo things will give her that feeling...

and that's way more powerful than any alpha thing you can do... have a woman so turned on that she can't breath and watch a lot of the sh!t test so many men worry about dissapear (you can actually start sh!t testing them for fun)...
 

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what that girl did is disgusting. what goes around comes around man. its girls like that just get me angery. sure the bf is a spoon, that's not in question, but for the girl to be that much of a coward to not just break it off before she gets upto such antics is just a wrongen through and through.

and woman complain about men not treating them well. i wonder why. gezz
 

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i don't know but i completely agree with son of anarchy and also...when you are entering into an exclusive relationship with a girl....you want to be attached with her...so it teaches us that choosing the right girl is important.
 

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schttrj said:
i don't know but i completely agree with son of anarchy and also...when you are entering into an exclusive relationship with a girl....you want to be attached with her...so it teaches us that choosing the right girl is important.
yes it is the right thing to do... but...

this girl appears to everyone else to be a good girl... she's wholesome in appearance and attitude... doesn't party much (and always parties with her BF)... straight A's through high school and college... good parents... etc...

under normal circumstances - the women who i get in my bed who are cheating - are normally fvcked in the head - but this one defintely has her act together and i cannot find anything from her past which would be a red flag as to why she is doing this other than........ her life with her bf is boring... her past life is boring... she hasn't had much excitement... until... i came along =)

i have most likely turned her out now... and even when we part ways (normally takes about a year) - - - she will probably go looking for someone else to replace me... and will be like this for life... it's worth it to me...

and she's very good at this... so i don't imagine she'll get caught... and he'll probably continue to believe he has the greatest girlfriend in the world... one who even helps him pick out plates for their house together :cheer:
 

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shinko said:
what that girl did is disgusting. what goes around comes around man. its girls like that just get me angery. sure the bf is a spoon, that's not in question, but for the girl to be that much of a coward to not just break it off before she gets upto such antics is just a wrongen through and through.

and woman complain about men not treating them well. i wonder why. gezz
they can complain all they want - but ... WOMEN LOVE MEN WHO TREAT THEM BAD (they just say otherwise)...

she won't break it off with him because - im way too risky to break something off with someone for... i have many women and im barely middle-income (i often cannot provide for myself, yet alone another woman).... he's very wealthy and approved by her family (i wouldn't be)... takes her on expensive vacations to other countries... buys her expensive jewelry, etc...

he's 100% seen as the provider by her...

if i tried to get her to leave him for me (she probably would) - or she chose to do it herself... it would work for 2-3 months and then she'd get scared of what her future might look like and run back to him (and he'd always take her back in the name of "i love you no matter what happens")... i know, because it's happened.... more than once...
 

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Son of anarchy said:
,i felt like a bastard to did that to an other man.
That's because you are a bastard for doing that to another man. ;)
 
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Bukowski,

Dude, I definitely understand the adrenaline rush of being with a girl who has a boyfriend. I have done it in the past, but I don't brag about it, and probably would NOT do it again if I were single. The only thing that sucks is when you finally think you have the good woman, and your defense mechanisms drop and you truly care and are open and trusting and you get blindsighted. It happens bro..

All I can say is if it were me, and I found out I would definitely be out of that relationship. Women are definitely better liars and are really good at adding little details that men don't. Things like; hanging up to orgasm and blaming it on cell reception lol.. that is hella shady..

Guys, bottom line is, if she wants to cheat she is going to cheat. If she isn't excited and doesn't feel the way she should, and someone else can (bukowski).. She will cheat.. But guys cheat too, our cheating just isn't emotional.. usually its based on sexual attraction or we are tired of the same vag..

Be safe and wear a rubber..
 

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bukowski_merit said:
yes it is the right thing to do... but...

this girl appears to everyone else to be a good girl... she's wholesome in appearance and attitude... doesn't party much (and always parties with her BF)... straight A's through high school and college... good parents... etc...

under normal circumstances - the women who i get in my bed who are cheating - are normally fvcked in the head - but this one defintely has her act together and i cannot find anything from her past which would be a red flag as to why she is doing this other than........ her life with her bf is boring... her past life is boring... she hasn't had much excitement... until... i came along =)

i have most likely turned her out now... and even when we part ways (normally takes about a year) - - - she will probably go looking for someone else to replace me... and will be like this for life... it's worth it to me...

and she's very good at this... so i don't imagine she'll get caught... and he'll probably continue to believe he has the greatest girlfriend in the world... one who even helps him pick out plates for their house together :cheer:
It's true. You cant turn a bad girl good, but once a good girl gone bad, she gone forever.
 

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Does anyone else not find this morally ****ED up?
This is wrong dude.
Being a Man includes doing what you know is right.
 

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There is nothing any one particular man can do to change a woman's behavior. If bukowski is not fvcking her while she is talking to her man on the other line, the dude next door will.
 

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man.. if anything. when your done with her. atleast let her BF know about her.
 

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Honestly dude, thats ****ed up, only coz not a few months ago i was the guy making the 10 calls while my Ho was getting pounded. That doesnt make me a loser or I have no game, it just means Some ppls morals are JUST ****ED. I wudnt even screw a girl like that, its just plain dirty.
 

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Wow man that is cool. I want to learn how to attract women like that too. What kinds of techniques does it take to get women to do something like that?
 

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Morals are a relative thing, and what is right for one guy is not necessarily right for the next man.

I was told the best way to judge if you're on the right track is if you can look "the man in the mirror who's face you shave every morning" (that's YOU, for you psych majors) in the eye. When you can no longer do that, and are ashamed, it's time to change what you're doing. If you still have the sparkle in your eye and the jump in your step, go take on the world, brother.

Different men live by different codes. It's the way of the world.
 

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AF77 said:
Does anyone else not find this morally ****ED up?
This is wrong dude.
Being a Man includes doing what you know is right.
I'm a selfish dude who gets what he wants... f your morales...
i've dated only a handful of real girlfriends, and never once cheated on them (except for one and we were swingers so it wasn't really cheating)... that's where my morales exist...
****ing another guys girl is her/his problem... she's the one doing it...


falcon814 said:
man.. if anything. when your done with her. at leaast let her BF know about her.
I'd do a lot more damage to him by telling him something like that than i would by keeping him from the truth (not that i even know the guy to tell him if i wanted to)


75%PUA said:
Honestly dude, thats ****ed up, only coz not a few months ago i was the guy making the 10 calls while my Ho was getting pounded. That doesnt make me a loser or I have no game, it just means Some ppls morals are JUST ****ED. I wudnt even screw a girl like that, its just plain dirty.
Understand I come from a breed of the seduction community who embraces MLTRs (that's multiple long term relationships for the people who don't know... aka i have more than one girlfriend and none of us are exclusive - some PUA who are known for this are Franco, Joseph W. South, and Johnny Soprano.)... we ARE boyfriend and girlfriend but not in an exclusive way... there's sooo many reasons this works that it would take too much of my time to write out... it's not uncommon for me to have a MLTR with a woman over years who goes through 2-3 boyfriends while continuing to see me.... that's the freedom i give them... ... im sorry but i don't feel sorry for your situation... im sure you exhibited needy traits (calling her 10 times is enough to show this)... and traits that most bf's who get their heart ripped out show....

keep in mind: im by no means saying i couldn't be cheated on (although i wouldn't care since i give these girls freedom). it can happen to any guy. and if you realize that - maybe you won't beat yourself up so bad and let your world collapse around you when it happens to you.


manhattanguy35 said:
Wow man that is cool. I want to learn how to attract women like that too. What kinds of techniques does it take to get women to do something like that?
no set techniques... i calibrate what to do based on the situation... bring some of your women around me boy... i'll show you how it's done...
 

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I also endorse MLTRs! And as someone who has been in at least 2 for some years now. I can co-sign with this:

Women who are already taken are way easier to get into them with. Single women want commitment after a few months - especially if you're good in bed and with women - and no it does not matter what frame you set! They will begin to act crazy if you aren't looking to commit to them after 8-12 weeks and drop your other women for them.

With women who are taken - this does not occur.


It's the same old debate though. Someone f@@kss another guys girlfriend and the guys on this board who also f@@K other guys girlfriends face off with the morale police. Same thing seems to occur on all seduction boards...
 
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