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Talking about sex vs. Whipping it out

thedoc

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Here's the story:


I've been hooking up with this girl and recently we've gotten a couple chances to do something beyond hooking up.

First chance:
I get there, we watch some tv/eat and right away start hooking up.
I go for the button and she says no. I keep trying and she keeps saying no, so I get off, turn on the tv, and sit there with my arms cross. She keeps trying to get me back but I play this perfectly. Eventually she gets mad frustrated and jumps on top of me. After around 30 mins:

Her shirt is off, my shirt is off. Her bra is off. Her pants are off. She's breathing extremely hard and I start fingering her.

That's really where it stayed. I kept waiting for her to make a move, I even took my belt off, and she didn't make one move. Pretty soon her mom gets home (and tries to sneak in on us lmao) and I end up going home horny as fvck.


Second time:
My dad lets me drive his bmw for the night, and I'm sure that's enough to get her hot and horny. It sure as hell was enough for me :p.

After I pick her up, we end up not even leaving my car, getting straight into the backseat and straight to business.

In around a half hour, there's the same exact scenario as last time. Maybe it's my fault but I would feel weird just whipping it out. I'm so used to other girls making the first move on me (while hooking up), this was actually the first girl I've fingered.

Maybe it's just her. Not to brag but I got pretty good with my hands and whatnot, she's kinda boring. I actually told her that she's a boring kisser. :

I'm going to try ONE more time with this, if nothing happens what should I do? Should I talk about it with her or just whip my d1ck out and see what happens. There's no attachment to this girl and I COULD just next her, but ehhhhh. 3-4 months ago I wouldn't even imagine myself in this scenario and I feel like dropping her just like that is a bit greedy and selfish, and I'd regret it.


Any advice?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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kingsam

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this is a bit "rambly"...anyway...

for a start dont tell her shes a bad kisser - lie if you have to, tell her tell her shes sexy as fu.ck etc...(dont suck up tho)

so this is the first girl you Fingerd?
so you are both inexperienced (and v's?), maybe this is whats preventing you from escalating, and she will prob be a little hesitant...if it is dont worry just try n escalate next time
id say make sure you know all the moves/things you can do sexually, read up on it all (so you are a good lover, good at forplay, getting her horny/wet etc...- rather than the "missionarry style bang machine" than many men only seem to be capable of)
dont whip it out and just try to stick it in straihgt away, get her playing with it first, get her used and comfortable wiht it...

i dont think you should next her , may just take a litle more time (esp if she is new to all this)
and also next time you see her make sure you wont be interupted...

lastly your 17 dont worry about every one else doing it, your time will come very soon!
 

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Seriously, if you get another chance with this chick and you're in a similar situation with her (her shirt is off, you're fingering her and she is breathing hard and moaning), just take her pants and panties off, then take your pants and undies off, and stick your **** in. Whatever you do, don't ask. If she rejects you, then stop. If she jumps on you again because you pulled away, rinse and repeat.

It's not rocket science.
 

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thedoc said:
Here's the story:


I've been hooking up with this girl and recently we've gotten a couple chances to do something beyond hooking up.

First chance:
I get there, we watch some tv/eat and right away start hooking up.
I go for the button and she says no. I keep trying and she keeps saying no, so I get off, turn on the tv, and sit there with my arms cross. She keeps trying to get me back but I play this perfectly. Eventually she gets mad frustrated and jumps on top of me. After around 30 mins:

Her shirt is off, my shirt is off. Her bra is off. Her pants are off. She's breathing extremely hard and I start fingering her.
Last minute resistance (LMR) can be very frustrating, but you actually dealt with it well here.


That's really where it stayed. I kept waiting for her to make a move, I even took my belt off, and she didn't make one move. Pretty soon her mom gets home (and tries to sneak in on us lmao) and I end up going home horny as fvck.
WHY?
You make the move. You're the man. You lead. Don't talk to her about it, just do it. Just keep moving forward.



Second time:
My dad lets me drive his bmw for the night, and I'm sure that's enough to get her hot and horny. It sure as hell was enough for me :p.

After I pick her up, we end up not even leaving my car, getting straight into the backseat and straight to business.

In around a half hour, there's the same exact scenario as last time. Maybe it's my fault but I would feel weird just whipping it out. I'm so used to other girls making the first move on me (while hooking up), this was actually the first girl I've fingered.

Maybe it's just her. Not to brag but I got pretty good with my hands and whatnot, she's kinda boring. I actually told her that she's a boring kisser. :

I'm going to try ONE more time with this, if nothing happens what should I do? Should I talk about it with her or just whip my d1ck out and see what happens. There's no attachment to this girl and I COULD just next her, but ehhhhh. 3-4 months ago I wouldn't even imagine myself in this scenario and I feel like dropping her just like that is a bit greedy and selfish, and I'd regret it.


Any advice?
Get her panties off first so she's totally naked. Then you get it out. Don't ask her or talk to her about it.

Just keep slowly moving the interaction forward. Two steps forward, one step back.

Sometimes they throw out token resistance comments like "these ain't coming off by the way". Just ignore it and keep moving forward unless she clearly says NO. If you meet real resistance continue at the stage you're at and then try again later, and if that doesn't work back off like you did the first time and wait for her to make a move again.
 

thedoc

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LOL problem solved.

Beach season is coming up and I noticed I was getting a bit hairy around the chest/stomach so I decided to shave.

She immediately noticed and long story short she assumed that because I didn't shave my upper body, I didn't shave anywhere else. :crackup:



Talk about over-thinking things haha
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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