"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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So, I think I still have this problem with girls.
Sometimes, there are situations where I didn't "take advantage" of certain opportunities, like kissing her, or start something right away. There were just certain circumstances that I missed.
I ask you mature men how you solved this problem.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I ask you mature men how you solved this problem.
By recognizing that this is similar to wit of the stair case https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'esprit_de_l'escalier Real life isn't a scripted drama, and as such we don't always notice the opportunities which are right in front of us. Doesn't pay to ruminate on such matters
 

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So, I think I still have this problem with girls.
Sometimes, there are situations where I didn't "take advantage" of certain opportunities, like kissing her, or start something right away. There were just certain circumstances that I missed.
I ask you mature men how you solved this problem.
It depends on why you missed the opportunities. Do you lack situational awareness? Are you not good at reading women? Do you talk too much? Do you think too much? Do you lack confidence? Are you not a leader in your relationships?

When I first started I wasn't great at reading women nor picking up on their subtleties. They are indirect many times when it comes to showing sexual openness/desire and are turned off if they have to spell it out for you. Eventually you learn to decode them. Its solid awareness that helps that process take place.

I'm certain by the personality you display on this forum that you miss opportunities because you think too much.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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So, I think I still have this problem with girls.
Sometimes, there are situations where I didn't "take advantage" of certain opportunities, like kissing her, or start something right away. There were just certain circumstances that I missed.
I ask you mature men how you solved this problem.
Just go for it. If she is alone with you, most likely she is expecting you to make a move. If she denies you, it's not a big deal, carry on.

We've all missed opportunities. When I was a teen/early 20s I was more oblivious. As I got older I missed fewer but on occasion I psyched myself out. Nowadays I just go for it.
 

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you think too much.
What if I think too much because of another issue?


Do you lack situational awareness? Low experience, Yes
Are you not good at reading women? I was. Now I'm Improving, but need more experience.
Do you talk too much? No
Do you think too much? Yes
Do you lack confidence? Yes/No. I haven't in certain situation, but have in some others.
Are you not a leader in your relationships? I don't like to impose my thinking like a dictature, but most of LTR are based on the man being the dictator. Imposing my thinking would be like being mentally closed.
 

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What if I think too much because of another issue?


Do you lack situational awareness? Low experience, Yes
Are you not good at reading women? I was. Now I'm Improving, but need more experience.
Do you talk too much? No
Do you think too much? Yes
Do you lack confidence? Yes/No. I haven't in certain situation, but have in some others.
Are you not a leader in your relationships? I don't like to impose my thinking like a dictature, but most of LTR are based on the man being the dictator. Imposing my thinking would be like being mentally closed.
Are you dealing with Italian girls? To be fair they can be difficult. I had one ask me if I wanted to be slapped (and not in a good way) when I went for a kiss. That was a hard next.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What if I think too much because of another issue?


Do you lack situational awareness? Low experience, Yes
Are you not good at reading women? I was. Now I'm Improving, but need more experience.
Do you talk too much? No
Do you think too much? Yes
Do you lack confidence? Yes/No. I haven't in certain situation, but have in some others.
Are you not a leader in your relationships? I don't like to impose my thinking like a dictature, but most of LTR are based on the man being the dictator. Imposing my thinking would be like being mentally closed.
So your biggest problem is you are in your head thinking about what to do and not taking action and likely second guess yourself. So the next time you catch yourself thinking too much, stop yourself and take physical action.

Your success hinges on having more experiences. Get out and socialize with groups of people more often.
 

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Ok does this have an "hardware" cause (like my height) or a "software" one (like a trauma or so?)
Most likely both. The terrific news though is that understanding "the cause" isn't a pre-requisite to overcoming the obstacle
 

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That's weird. I always had Italian women asking me if I would spank them after I kiss them. Maybe it's the kissing technique.
Maybe it was lost in translation. ;)

Funny thing was, she seemed really into me but somewhere I took a wrong turn with her. Later on I noticed on her Whatsapp profile pic that within less than a year, it changed to a photo of her and her groom getting married. Within a few months of that, pregnant. She was hunting for something, guess I wasn't it. Was definitely in that mid 30s range for tying down a man. (Again, not in the fun way.)
 

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Your success hinges on having more experiences. Get out and socialize with groups of people more often.
Actually I am trying to swap career and get one which I have contact with people, or better, administrate em (like buildings administration or HR)
Most likely both. The terrific news though is that understanding "the cause" isn't a pre-requisite to overcoming the obstacle
Which is the good news?
 
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