"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

Taken Girls

NeedToImprove

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Dec 18, 2005
Messages
352
Reaction score
1
i saw in this forum many aspiring djs asking how to steal woman from other guys they are with. but why bother? why stealing when can get lots of other hot girls that aren't taken. even if a girl with b/f made a move on me i would ignore the *****, if she's dishonest with him why wouldnt she be the same with me. Respect other men that's my suggestion and forget about flirty *****es, most of the times they just want attention and to test their seduction skills
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

tobby

Don Juan
Joined
Dec 1, 2004
Messages
110
Reaction score
2
Age
40
Location
USA
Honestly, I've always been for self-integrity since I didn't want someone to "steal" a girl from me. But in real life, things don't work that way. Chicks never really are single unless "they're dumped" or they want to make themselves available for another prospect they're interested in.

Most chicks are taken, there are a few that are single, but usually you're dealing with chicks that are in relationships already. Let's put it this way, there's basically 1 guy for every girl, but not 1 girl that the guy's attracted to for every guy. (Plenty of UGs and fat chicks around, but you nor I want them.)

If you don't want to steal a chick, you can just stay around and keep being interesting until she's single or dumps the guy and moves on to you.

The best analogy for this was said by someone I don't remember. "Chicks are like monkeys and won't leave one branch branch until they've secured another."
 
Last edited:

Jay Jay

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 3, 2006
Messages
630
Reaction score
15
Yup.

Girls are funny.

I've known girls who haven't left guys because they have been told that he'd kill her if she leaves.

I've known girls who won't leave their guy coz he says he will kill HIMSELF if she leaves!!!

I've known girls who won't dump a guy because the guy has undermined her self confidence to such an extent she doesn't believe she will get anyone else.

I've known girls who won't dump guys because he bought her nice presents, because they have booked a holiday in three months together, because he cries when she tries, coz she doesn't want to be lonely.

I've know girls who haven't dumped guys for reasons as dumb as the fact they like the guy's mum and the mum will get upset!

I've even spoken to a girl who won't dump her guy because SHE CHEATED ON HIM AND WANTED TO MAKE UP FOR IT!

Fair game I say.

JJ
 

banGbro

Banned
Joined
Dec 2, 2006
Messages
249
Reaction score
0
You cant steal a chick if shes madly in love with the guy, unless youre super PUA, Im not.

The other week I met this columbian chick. She plainly admitted, to her friends, that the only reason shes with a guy is for his body (and money). And she went to valentines date with another dude. I didnt even understand her relationship. I guess shes just screwing around. She teased me first, so when they tease me first its a given, I play them and dont stop.

If she would have LJBF me Id say no thanx. Otherwise I took it to the max. The only thing is that I dont work there anymore, so next time I see her I start over. I dont care if she has a boyfriend.


Question is I guess, would I want to say with her long term. To find the answer I looked at the opposite. Lets say a girl is single, what we guys imagine a single girl, no fvcking around with strangers. Is she gonna hook up with a guy because she love him or because she doesnt want to be single?????? Think of that hard. I bet its the latter.

Now, if I steal the b1tch, it does not mean shes not dissent or not to be trusted. It means she wasnt in love enough with the other guy. That in turn means shes in love with me, or whatever.

I dont see any problems with stealing chicks, other than dudes can pack some heat, or know people. As long as shes not my friend's girlfriend Im cool with stealing her. Ill even flirt with her in front of her boyfriend, Im too of intimidating muther fvcker for anyone to mess with me.


There is another flip to this story. Guys that live in your neighborhood, or your building. If you steal their chick you establish dominance. Such as when fvcking your neighbors wife, or like Im about to do is fvck a mother and her daugher. It just feels good.
 

Ras_Cyber

New Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2007
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
Location
Melaka
i find dat gals r lyk monkeys
ey will nvr let go of e other branch until ey gt a strong grip on e next
so dats whr e stealin part brings in e DJs

so i figure all sorts of things lyk respect e other guy will keep u searchin 4 e rare single gals dat r hard 2 find
so i suggest we play along if ey want attention dat ey dont gt 4rm eir man
use dis opportunity to ur advantage
n bail out i tel u if ey just want 2b frnds coz a real DJ is nt cannot b used lyk a puppet on a string by taken gals
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

Read more...

banGbro

Banned
Joined
Dec 2, 2006
Messages
249
Reaction score
0
Another thing:


I think this discussion has more to do with insecurity than anything else. Dont you just get the not so fuzzy feeling when you wonder if girl has a boyfriend or not?

Sometimes they tell you they have a boyfriend. Whats the expression on your face and how it feels? I think women know that and one sure way to stop you from sargin is attack your insecurities. If you bite it ruins everything.

My response to when she says I have a boyfriend or gives indirect hits is to say "oh, you have a BOYYYFRIEND???.... Im gonna have to STEAL you!" I say it with confidence, and might actually look her over and give it a thought before saying the latter part. Then Ill ask a few qualifying questions and give her a hint I like her.

Thats with chicks that let me know they are not single. Those chicks that give no clues I follow DDs recommendation.
 

Ras_Cyber

New Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2007
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
Location
Melaka
complex situations

i agree wit u bt nt completely
man lets understand we can all be DJ's bt we cn nt play at e same tym
we play in different sessions if its at a big club
same 2 as e gals who tel us ey r wit sum1 or taken

2 play ur session perfectly understand ur decks n tables
cz e complex situation ever is wen e guy knws u r tryin 2 steal his record
2 play in ur session or e guy is ur frnd n obviously u r a man
she is e woman in btwn

its lyk i said she needs a reason 2 let go of e other branch
n grip on u

dnt b caught in dis situation n dnt knw wat 2 do
dis forum is whr we help each other!!!!
read btwn e lines if she is promising 2b stolen go ahead
if ey is no possibility bail out move 2 e next gal:yes:
 

Raikojo17

Banned
Joined
Oct 22, 2006
Messages
982
Reaction score
5
respct other men guys. im sure u wouldnt be so cool if some big pimp came and stole ur chick talking about it's alpha and that she was in love with him now would u? i thought not. so dont waste time on taken chicks

most of the girls are actually single out there. the prettiest girls i kno are single, so they are not hard to find, infact they are real easy to find.

to make up a statistic, for every 1 taken girl, there are about 5 single girls.
 
Top