"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Taken a virgin. Buyers remorse

charlezz

Don Juan
Joined
Apr 20, 2006
Messages
169
Reaction score
5
Long story short, I had sex with a hot chick, turned out unexpectedly she's a virgin and pretty conservative. She's 26 years old. we have known one another for 2months; comfort and attraction have been built. After we had sex, she seems to be in pain and in a slight "state of shock" refusing to talk to me.

The next day, contact is minimal and I did delibrately be slight AFC and check if she's alright so and so. Fluff text a bit;
she finally texted "I am scared of you and hate you... I hope tomorrow I will feel better..."
We live nearby, so I asked if she wanna meet. No replies, didn't contact her again for this day.

She's a potential LTR quality.. Can see buyer's remorse shadowing her..

Any one had any experience in dealing with her? Let her cool down first?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

ebracer05

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Nov 29, 2010
Messages
283
Reaction score
31
Age
51
Location
Washington
Yea. She wouldn't have had sex if she really was a virgin at 26 if she wasn't extremely attracted to you.

This is just buyers remorse. Don't start acting like an AFC. If you like her, keep being the man and doing what you know to do. Go ghost for a little while. You just became the most alpha guy in the girl's life by virtue of being the first guy to have sex with her. Do you really think she's going anywhere?

Girls say stuff like that and I don't even think they know what they're saying... they just know they have a feeling and words start coming out of their mouths that may or may not match up to that feeling. She was probably right when she said she is scared of you because she realizes the power that you have over her. And when she says she hates you, what she's really saying is that she hates herself for making what she views through the lens of hindsight and the potential for others to find out as a bad decision. Think about her ending line:

I hope tomorrow I feel better

This is all about her bro. She feels like a slut because she's got some values that she compromised. She's probably a very religious type of something and is considering the ramifications of her actions against the motif of what she's believed her entire life... not logically obviously, but through a lens of feelings. And she may also have some sort of a feeling that she's messed up the rest of her life because as a potentially religious girl, her chastity is gone and from her perspective in the church, her value has just been downgraded significantly. That's probably where she's coming from.

In the future, don't ask if she wants to meet. You had sex with her and have known her for 2 months. If you want something, just tell her.

Go ghost for a little bit and she will contact you, trust me. If you fall off the radar and she thinks she lost you after all this, she'll run back to you even harder. The worst thing you can do right now is show your hand and turn the locus of power over to her.

Just keep being the man.
 

PapiChulo

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 30, 2010
Messages
1,283
Reaction score
61
Location
Canada, eh?
26 and a virgin.....Are you serious? Where do you get these women? You know it is possible for them to turn "virgin" if there is no penetration for a long time.
 

charlezz

Don Juan
Joined
Apr 20, 2006
Messages
169
Reaction score
5
PapiChulo said:
26 and a virgin.....Are you serious? Where do you get these women? You know it is possible for them to turn "virgin" if there is no penetration for a long time.
1 in 100000 chance I guess.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

charlezz

Don Juan
Joined
Apr 20, 2006
Messages
169
Reaction score
5
Ebracer. Thanks for the advice. Sounds like what I intend to do. Your advice just reinforced my decision
 

loveshogun

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 19, 2009
Messages
719
Reaction score
35
charlezz said:
She's a potential LTR quality.
I didn't realize women who despise themselves after having sex were LTR material.

You might have remorse. You may have even done something wrong (I don't think you did).

Who knows, she might change her mind six months down the road and get used to the idea of having sex. Or she might not.

My question is, why is it so important for you to find out?
 
Top