SweetDannyJ - Journal

[SweetDannyJ]

A little about me. Gonna try to be honest but it's hard when it comes out like bragging. It's not, just trying to get my thoughts and exp. out in the open:

Been a lurker for a few months now. Been reading up on something I never knew I needed...

I've never had trouble with woman. In fact, I don't remember a time where I sat there nervously trying to get up energy to talk to one. I'm sure I have, but for the most part, they game me. A lot of the times I get woman that act the way I did with the last girl just before I found this site. First time in my life I became an AFC and it blew my mind. I know exactly where and when I went wrong, yet I couldn't believe it happened. In the span of about 3 weeks none the less! With someone who is not even worthy... I'll explain further on.

When woman throw themselves at you, no matter how hot, they get ugly real fast. Believe me, it's not a "geez buddy, wish I had that problem" anyone wants and I'm sure some of you guys get this too. It kills a lot of really hot woman that could otherwise be a lot of fun. Then you get the ones that turn into swimf@ns which is even worse. Just to provide the knowledge that I know EXACTLY how broads feel toward AFC behavior and it makes me wanna go out and punch a dog. And I LOVE dogs! I'm getting offtrack.

Ugh, this is really hard... :crazy: I must be coming off like such a douche but I assure you I don;t need a pat-on-the-back. I'm only trying to give some insight to who I am and where I come from. I can feel a unified :kick: from everyone but lemme get through this ****ty part and you'll understand me better.

I've managed to can about 60 tuna in my "career". Some I don't even remember. I'm a party guy that'll do just about anything and have been for about 18 years. I crush beer, women come, I crush women, women get crushed. I start over again. I've been happy with that and never wanted any more from it. I've had a lot of fun in my years. 36 now. and a few STRs/LTRs along the way.

That sucked. Thanks for tagging along. Now I can get on with fixing the holes in my game. I'll start off from where I began my short AFC stint a few months ago, and continue to update as I figure this sh!t out.

 

[Pimply_Pimp]

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

 

[SweetDannyJ]

Ok, so my AFC behavior...

I met this girl back when I was 20, she was 16. Nothing materialized back then and Fankly I thought she was a bit of a dirt bag. Chunky too. Maybe kisses and lots of flirting but nothing past that.

That frames the next 14 years between us.

Time flies, I run into her again one night. I dunno, maybe 10 years ago. She's looking better now, maybe a 7.5. Always had giant boobs which isn't a huge focal point for me, legs 'n ass man right here, but a plus none the less.

We meet up at a bar. The whole "Wow! it's been so long! you look great! so do you! Great idea, we should do this!". So this we did. Buddy's place+couch+naked=fun times.

And that was that...

Until 2 more years pass. See her again. She's up to an 8 now lookin sweet. She's been married, divorced and back to wh0re'n it up. She is quite the ***** by the way. Daddy issues perhaps. I give 2 sh!ts

Anywh0re, we do the dance. Back to her place. Naked times. But this time she get's a little to into me. The next morning brings many things I hate, aside from other hungover faces in the same bed. "Let's do stuff and hang out". I should admit it wasn't the worse thing that ever happened. She is pretty damn hot. It just wasn't the right time for me to get into what I knew she wanted. Put her # in my phone and I bolted.

Saw her again a few weeks later. She's pissed now and most likely wanted me to spontaneously explode, before I go to hell. Fair enough.

Throw on another 2 years. I see her out... She's a 9 dudes. Don't ask how, but she did it. Cheese n' Rice this broad is smokin!

Now, I act the part of course. Full DJ indifference to her. She's amicable, but nothing more. Nice to see you, yak yak yak, later. Not bad, but she obviously gets enough attention out there now that she's more than comfortable in her own delicious skin.

4 months later... haha I know. But this is the timeline that lead to my 1 meter by 1 meter hole in the death star that was my confidence.

Run into her again. This time I throw a little more at her and pull away at the perfect time. She is all over it and bails on her buddies as they leave, to stay with me. Bring her back to the ranch, no forking but the ground work was 'laid'.

Two days later we hit Paddy's Day and the beginning of the end... begins. She's head over heels for me. But this is all about to change my friends.

It takes just inside of 3 weeks to completely fall apart and get shown the door. Never been so surprised in my life. I mean I completely did EVERYTHING AFC. I left nothing out. Including the death blow to every single relationship. The flood of text messages. This my friends can take down a raging bull. And when you hit this point, there is no going back.

I'll be honest. I didn't get to the point like I've read on these boards like begging and sh!t. Don't be fooled. The begging stage is not a barometer for the point of no return. When you hit the begging stage, you've hit rock bottom on whole 'nother level. You don't need to go that far to ruin everything. Once you start with a few pesky txts or calls or visits after she has "apparently" made up her mind, that's it! You are out! Girls are a cement wall that actually harden with our fluffy crap when they lose patience.

It's been said so many times and I wish I would have caught myself before hand and read these boards. If she thinks she knows what she's talking about (hint: she doesn't anyway) just smile and agree. Walk away. Nothing you do, and I mean NOTHING you do will change her mind. She needs her space? Friggin' give it to her and that precise moment. If I did, I would have caught my errors and still be prokin that fine ass.

Well, that's where my journey begins. Which is insane because I thought I knew everything there was to know about canning tuna. 3somes, 4somes, pig roasts. I've done it all. Pooney at my beckon call and somehow completely fell apart over one piece of beef I already devoured a few times before. When I least expected it, BAM!! 18 years of solid gaming down the drain in just 3 weeks. I lost all control and awareness!

Huge lessons here for me all wrapped into one:
Never lose awareness. Plain and simple.

EVERYTHING can be traced back that. Everything that falls apart, does so because you lose sight of what is going on around you.

And what does it take? aside from never starting sentences with "And"?... A breather. That's it! One step back for 5 minutes, that you think you don't have, and take a breather. Drink it all in. "Where is she right now in her IL?" "Am I raising or lowering IL at this point?"

Man, if I did that for 5 minutes a day (I stare at stuff longer) I could have corrected my frame and ventured forth.

I'm not whining for this broad back. Don't get me wrong, she was hot as sh1t and there was more to her than just a great sac. What my purpose here is to correct my sh1t. I've never lost a broad before. It's what is really bothering me more than not having her. I want to make sure it never happens again. Believe me, just the act of writing this out has done wonders.

So, I will update this as I go forth and own some quality ass. What I think is cool is when I read some of the other journals. The part 5 months to a year down the road where the OP says "Wow, reading back on this is awesome! I'm so far ahead of my game when I started"

To be continued... prolly on the Mondays cause weekends are for sarging, and Sundays are for sleeping it off!

(edited for spelling)

 

[SweetDannyJ]

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

So, is this the same as "First!" in all the dorky forums around the web?

You're right, I should just summarize so no one knows where I'm coming from and from what angle. I'm here to fix my own problems. Writing sh1t down is the best way to get started IMHO.

Thanks for contributing, nothing

 

[SweetDannyJ]

Went out with a big group last night. Pubs basically. Said screw it and just talked to everything that had heat coming from it. I normally do anyway as I'm quite outgoing, but this time was about picks and pulls.

7 and 8 sitting at the bar. Walk up, "what's up I'm Danny j" it pissed me off that they were shooing guys away so I wasn't putting any effort into it. Just went with a friendly smile and said hey. 7 completely turned on 8 and forgot she was even there. This is the scenario where the 7 was on the outside making it hard to hit the hotter one.

Talk to her for a bit while moving around her stool to the 8. Hit up the 8, names, and just before she was gonna type my number inhere phone, she asked, a better 8 walks in. 8.5. Already thinking this b1tch was a b1tch for face palming other dudes, I walked in mid digits lol. B1tch

Anyways, the beer is flowing and I fear nothing after 4 Guinness. Walk up, get her interest, and bring into my company. We hit it off pretty well and she likes my upfront no bs style. Talk about sex all night. She's sounding pretty money. Talk about pig roasts... Actually called it that to her face lol. She's never been. Intro her to my buddy, she says as long as we don't call it pig roast hahahaha. The 8 even came back before she left to get the rest of my number... Some girls are just pure wh0res. I commend that lol

I love Wednesdays! ...but Thursdays hurt, when Wednesdays rock

 

[BobMo']

"It takes just inside of 3 weeks to completely fall apart and get shown the door. Never been so surprised in my life. I mean I completely did EVERYTHING AFC. I left nothing out. Including the death blow to every single relationship. The flood of text messages. This my friends can take down a raging bull. And when you hit this point, there is no going back."

You're a man-wh0re, and she sees it.

 

[SweetDannyJ]

You're a man-wh0re, and she sees it.

She knew that goin in. We've had a long history together in the same city. She may have hated me at one point, for not calling her a few years ago, but she knows I love woman, and that I don't stray if I've made the decision to be exclusive. We had and still have strong trust. It's just the interest part that I crammed into a blender.

Obviously, thinking about being exclusive is where i went wrong. Brought out the loser. Lost the challenge and became there for her whenever she needed me. Pitiful. Never done it before and no idea where it came from. This is why I came here, and why I'm trying to work on being more of an initiator in the convo game while I find the hole and plug it. Pun intended.

I still wake up in the middle of the night screaming after having nightmares of being whipped after, idk, 3 dates? Freaks me out.

Ugh, enough of her. Great girl. Prolly always have her as a friend, she's got lots of hot buddies that I'm on good terms with and still hang with. My problem is now faceless.

Got a big long weekend coming up and I'm going to make it my mission to talk to every girl I see. Pull or no pull. It's something I just don't do. I always talk to everyone, girls or guys, but I rarely initiate. All me this weekend!

 

[BobMo']

Your last post sounds like you're OK. Don't sweat it too much. Even monkeys fall out of trees.

 

[SweetDannyJ]

Tonight was ok... Met large babies, but didn't pull. Stupid farkin sausage vender lol. Had 2 nums, I gave out and we'll see if they call, but I had sone slut on the way out. Lost her at the street meat stand... Fockers! Beauty is, I started convos with everything that had two legs. Feeling good. It is not hard at all!! To just talk to b1tches. Man alive! They just want to be grabbed. No Matter the crap you have in your arsenal. They just cant wait for dudes to come up and talk ****!

Couple lessons:
1)why wait?
2)in all honesty, pulling my favorite quote of all time, get busy livin' or get busy dyin' (shawshank)

At any rate, I had two broads ready to do this and I got greedy. Went for both when I could have had either or. In the process, lost both... for now,

Ay my buddy always say:
"you don't have to pick up the whole bar!"
Focus... Focus young skywalker

 

[SweetDannyJ]

****e! The one girl that I actually wanted to call, called. Way too excited on the phone, and wanted to hangout tomorrow already. It was cool that she called instead of txt but still... Way too soon for my liking. Where's the challenge you dummy?!

Oh well. Hanging out next week and we'll see if I can get her spinning. Might actually try to fit challenge, non chalantly, as a topic into a convo. Don't wanna hate this one.

This must be what the girl, that I came here for and started this thread, was feeling. Too much too soon too everywhere... Blech!

Headin out tonight with some buds to dominate. Same focus. Initiaite convos with everything with boobies on it.

 

[SweetDannyJ]

Another successful night in the initiator column. Made a few new friends too. Have had the same friends for years so it's kinda cool meeting new peeps to roll with.

B1tches... So many b1tches. I don't live in a big city either. I just don't get how dudes have no luck. The numbers aren't the greatest, where I live, but it's a good enough ratio to be able hang with tarts every night we go out

I think the main reason for this is the quality/quantity of idiots in my city. I say idiots in a blind way. Looks or no looks. Everywhere i go, these guys just float around the outer perimeter of the bar waiting for chicks to get drunk and/or taken or Idk what the he'll they're waiting for, but it doesn't work... For them!! Works perfect for me. Boggles my mind how the they just hover in droves around the floor not saying anything to a single girl till they or the girls get hammered. Hilarious waste of time.

Anyways, I noticed a few dudes that looked like they were never gonna get off the wall. I was chatting wight a few babes and told them to come hang out to the side. The bar was full but the floor was empty. Started with the girls at a table by themselves, no doubt waiting for someone to come talk. We head over to the three guys on the wall and say what up. Cool enough guys, just scared or some ****. These broads were easy 7s. A little old for me, nut I like to keep under 30. Anyway, I intro them to these guys and we talk. I hang out for a bit until they loosen up and warm to these broads. They take over the convo and I fade out. Was awesome getting "cross the bar" cheers and thumbs up throughout the night from these guys. They kept them all night. Good work.

I was feeling a little under the weather so i knew i wasn't gonna stay to the end. Talked to a few more people. Got a number of this smokin belly dancer broad. Was pretty cool watching that mid section, thinking about it throwing me around the room. She will get a call from me for sure!

Feeling awesome about starting with people. No issues what so ever with staring and holding conversations with anyone. Not sure if I need to switch my focus. This is obviously not a hole I need to spend focal time on, but I will continue to be more outgoing and open. People with smiles on their face just look better.

Still need to find out where AFCDannyJ came from. Still quite bothered by losing. Been out three times this week. Grabbed or got grabbed every night, talk to a zillion people, see different faces, but I still feel the failure of having a broad eject on me. Makes me wonder if all the dudes that cry about an ex might need to realize there's more to your achey breaky heart than just a pretty face. Losing licks balls! Get over that, and I think the weight on your shoulders is trimmed by at least half. For me anyway

 

[Diaforetikos]

So let me start by saying welcome to the boards, even though you've been lurking for a while. I commend you on starting a journal. It helps your game immensely. Now on to advice, comments, and other random bvllsh!t.

And what does it take?... A breather. That's it! One step back for 5 minutes, that you think you don't have, and take a breather. Drink it all in. "Where is she right now in her IL?" "Am I raising or lowering IL at this point?"

This is what should be happening in all interactions on this site. Just a take a second and view where her IL is at with you. Adjust accordingly.

Writing sh1t down is the best way to get started IMHO.

Yes it is. All of you rookies to the site, right your ish down. It helps breakdown what areas you aren't succeeding in. Pinpoint location of all shortcomings. Write.

People with smiles on their face just look better.

Yup.

Still need to find out where AFCDannyJ came from.

You answered your own question earlier in this journal. Its when you decided that you wanted a long term thing from a girl that you spit short term game at. She was happy that you didn't want anything long term. Thats why she stuck around, but then you had to get all greedy and sh!t and fvck it up for yourself.

You had it bro, but you liked her looks too much. She was probably a fun girl too, but I can't honestly say.

With game, you have to decide early on what you want from the female. If you want her as a LTR, then spit LTR game. Same goes for STR and fvck-buds. There are differences to the game, but thats a whole other topic.

Anyways, you know your mistakes, and you obviously wont make that mistake again, so your headed in the right direction. Keep it moving man. Your doing great. Nice to have you on the site.

 

[Diaforetikos]

Double post ya'll!! Ha HAAA!!

 

[SweetDannyJ]

Went out last night with about 6 dudes and 5chicks. All friends. Banged 2of the girls before and we're on good terms so I'm comfortable having parachutes with us.

Head to the bar around 11:30. Pretty good crowd for a Sunday. Although it is the long weekend. I didn't feel like yaking all night so I was a out for the ass.

Couple funny things happen:
Again, there's dudes in the bar but they are all on the outside just standing there. Girls everywhere with no guys around them. Ugh, I just don't get this crap. I do not let my friends ever play that ***** sh1t. Sometimes they get scared, but you gotta jump so you can learn how to land.

Anyways, I notice a huge grenade dancing with a smokin 9. Heels and tight black pants, red tank top. Huge boobs and a tight ass. Incredible and even I'm thinking "Jesus, I better just stay here and not go near her". I didn't quite let myself finish that thought and head over with a buddy that owes me a huge wing. I assure him he just has to occupy her.

Head over and she's already accepting me. Eyes locked and completely turned to me "I was wondering when you were gonna come over here".

I almost didn't do it, for about 2seconds. You never know what these broads will say or think. You have to dive in there and see.

Anyways, my buddy engages the grenade and I have some time with the 9. I love to dance so we bounce around for a bit and shes is all hands. I help her find my noodle and she stays on it until we hit the bar for a shot. Some banana **** she wanted so I pass. I hate simulated banana. It's a natural flavor damn it, stop trying to simulate it, you're doing it wrong!!

Hit a couch for about 10 minutes. I don't like that kinda game. Sitting on a couch talking is wuss. It get boring real fast and is the perfect way to lower attraction with mumbly Joe sh1t. They're playing some good beats so we head back to the floor.

I start to reel her in by pushing her away. Actually, stepping away is a better description. Aloof time. So I start facing other directions and talking to other people near by. My buddies come out behind me to dance so I split the time with her and them. Hot girls can not stand this sh1t. I don't know who told them they should get all the attention and love (afc pukes) but it's perfect for this part. She finally runs at me and jumps into my arms, legs wrapped around me. "your all mine". Love it.

My buddy that jumped on the land mine is getting pissed now. He wants some broads and her buddy is not a pretty sight. There might have actually been three girls until she ate one. I dunno, but it's not fair for him to continue. I wave him in and she rejoins. Nice thing is, it doesn't matter. 9's already hooked.

Here's where bringing your own parachutes can work against you... You knew this was a coming

The 2 girls I've had before in our group are pretty awesome. Didn't pork them at the same time, but they did a stripper pole on my wienis and we've had fun together multiple times.

At any rate, they are pretty hammered and thus, horny and their "don't give a fvckness" kicks in. They were getting closer and spanking me on the floor and I knew what was coming so I ejected on the 9 and told her I had to hit the bathroom and grab a beer. Wait here I'll be back.

Head to the bathroom and they follow. I finally grab them and tell them to take it easy and find some other pole tonight.
Me: I'm not down with this right now
Broads: awww, he's trying to pick up that chick.

This last statement is not cool. I straighten up, look them both in the eye with a "back off" look. Smiles go away and they bail. Phew!! ...accept they weren't bailing because of me. Guess who was right behind me. Seeing as how I was supposed to be in the bathroom and getting a beer, standing in a hallway with two girls is not something she wanted to see. I didn't lie to her, hut I needed to get these two out of my hair. Needless to say she was not impressed. I did get her number after telling her they were my friends and needed my advice, but she was a little scared i think. Scared of maybe getting hurt by me somewhere down the line which is insane cause I just met her! Oh well, I'll call next week for sure.

Good part is, I got a text from a friend that exchanges sex with me ...lol. She comes out and we head to her place. Fantastic bj. Its been a while with her and forgot about that. I love when girls, like her, have the mind set that it is her job to be all about the c0ck and know what to do and when.

Good night overall. This 9 is hotter and taller than my reason for being here. Her tits are actually a little smaller. This is good thing cause my crush b1tch is gonna be touching her knees with her jugs when she gets older. So I'm jacked with this new one. Perfect hands and feet too. Like Pamela Anderson's. I hate man hands and frog feet.

Gotta remember to keep my game in str mode with this one. She scares me a bit at how hot and fun she is. I've been here before and I don't wanna have to write 2 journals lol

 

[SweetDannyJ]

Hittin the fart sac early tonight. Had a big weekend.

Get a text from the 9 from last night. I'm normally not a huge fan of hearing from girls the next day or even the next few days. I like to have some time to myself, think about work, if I actually like them, and I in general just have some time to miss them.

This particular time, I didn't mind. A quick (novel sized) text full of qualifying and sexy thoughts. Nice.

9:" hey you! Had a blast last night! Un cool of me to throw hate on you for talking to your friends. I'm not the jealous type but there's something about you that I don't want to share. You can hold anything you want, but that, against me. In fact I'm looking forward to it Don't take too long to ask me out!"

A little bit of yikes in there. Hope she's not a looney toon.

This is a girl that I initially thought might be a tad too hot, and by that I mean a pain in the azz, to approach. Somebody would have gotten the courage to say something to her at some point. Maybe a wall flower after their 10th bottle of false courage and then spit on her while talking. I said f it and went in and didn't have to open my mouth. Got within 2 feet and she was already opening me.

Don't be a wall flower and definitely do not be scared. Get your foot in the door through a little eye contact then go in. Don't think. Do.

Mind you, before I started working and focusing on initiating convos this week, I probably would have just waited for her to come to me. Which I'm sure wouldn't have happened. Hot chicks have too many options. I'm not naive, if it wasn't me, it would have been someone else.

Side note/affect from my change this week:
I actually look even more forward to going out. We're always "let's go out for a couple beers, live music and see some babies" a few times a week so it's fun, but now I do more than just sit at a table with friends and talk sh1t. Even grabbing a seat at other tables for a few minutes to chit chat with other people is making things a lot more fun, for me. Need to get my buddies off their azzes now.

 

[SweetDannyJ]

Taking the night off. Much deserved.

Not too much to update but have a funny text exchange to share.
this is from one of the broads that grabbed my # last week. Totally forgot until it popped up and I saw the name lol. I remember her now though. Solid 8. This is where one last beer comes OUT handy. Or whatever's the opposite of something that comes IN handy

Got a little lesson I learned as well. And she helped me learn it!

Started around 9ish.

HB: Hey handsome, with the girls. You going to 'place one' tonight?
Me: Fvck off!! (...lol just kidding, didn't say that)
Me: not tonight. Just back from the office. Tomorrow night going to 'place two'
Hb: hmmm, just took the fun out of stalking ya haha

Sh1t! She caught me there. Rergroup a reply.

Me: well that's energy saved for more fun activities then
HB: some of which I was hoping to participate in
Me: - no reply -
HB: you have NO idea! I still have a cut on my hand from your naughty zipper

Was cool. She was all over me trying to release the beast on the dance floor. Kept lightly pushing her away, but let her in every three tries. You could see the smoke coming off poon. She couldn't believe she was being denied, and she loved it!

Starting to get bored at this point so it's time to turn up the heat a little. Have some fun.

HB: what were you referring to? I was talking about my well manors
Me: I was way off then. My mind is all dirty. No fluff here, except maybe gettin nasty on a cloud. The cloud part could be considered fluff I guess.
HB: Lmfao. (some crap about fluff I didn't understand. Maybe undercover vag talk. Dunno)

Left it at that for a while. Then she sends a pic

HB: (pic) use this as contact photo.

It's a pretty solid professional photo of her naked, with blue flower pedals sprinkled sparingly over her boobs and vag. Quite hot

Me: I would use it, but there's some blue stuff in the way
HB: lmao...
HB: The lens must have been dirty before the pic.
Me: that's cool. I'm just waiting for the one you send without the blue stuff.
HB: hmmm... I don't have one. Maybe you should take the photo.
Me: Unfamiliar with photography. I'm an artist, I work with my hands.
HB: wow! In that case, I look forward to seeing (being) your work!
Me: ...yes you do
HB: damn, you are really something! Sure you can't make it out tonight?

And then a few more txts.

Lesson(s):
I guess I lost some mystery points on the "I'm going to place two tomorrow". Never would have that of that before. As well as a possible run-in that I may not want, depending on what kind of talent is there. Wasn't an invite, so it should be easy to work around. Social value in the least. But that's just making excuses for a clear mistake...

Lesson learned and burned in.

 

[SweetDannyJ]

Last update.

I know it's been a while. I figure I'll close this and start a field report.

2things have happened:
1. I'm just frigid busy right now to be writing these out
2. I still talk to my reason for coming here. Semi regularly. I decided to friend zone her a while back as I knee it would help me get past her very quickly. Of course I had to use the zone to its fullest potential and treat her like a friend. It worked.

However this past weekend, yesterday, I dropped by here joint to donate to her ball tram. Fighting for cancer. Just looking at her, mo over listening to her, completely turned me off. I haven't been talking to her this whole time thinking in my head "I just wanna bang this b1tch" but hearing that deep voice, smoker which I hate, just killed me. Too many wrinkles for a brand new 30 year old. I mentioned in the beginning that she was a dirtbag back in the day. I think those people, we call them dirt people for funnies, are just life long dirt people that will never change. House is always messy and so forth.

So anyways, I don't feel any need to keep a journal as I'm crushing more broads than ever. I have zero AA and i talk to people all the time.

Got some great stories from the past few weeks and lots more to come so I'll start up a FR when I get some more time.

Thanks to those who weighed in.