Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Surviving Marathon Sex

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You're on vacation with your girl and you're pretty much stuck with her for a few days. She has a high libido/wants it all the time. She like many other women don't understand that men can't get hard on command and bang it out for multiple sessions in a day without negative repercussions. How do you guys handle situations like this?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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give her tons of oral, fingers, vibrator, than flip her over for a 69 er session, get your weiner hard through her blowing you than flip her over and nail her again and again, cuddle in between and take your time doing this. Fun dilemma to have dude.
 

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I had this with an ex some time back and although I have a high drive myself, 3-4 times a night was tiring!!

Best thing is to drink a can of Monster just before!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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i make excuses or suggest to masturbate together...that way you don't have the pressure of staying hard and can still help her get off or watch her get off while u do as well...recommended to turn the tv on while doing this so u won't get bored if you aren't feeling it
 

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This is a "problem" I wish I had. It seems rather abnormal for your girl to have a higher sex drive than your own. Something I have yet to experience.

As ridiculous as it might sound quit the porn. This is at the core of many problems when it comes to guys as it tends to override our sex drives and causes a mess of other problems. It can even lead to erectile dysfunction.
 

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This is a "problem" I wish I had. It seems rather abnormal for your girl to have a higher sex drive than your own. Something I have yet to experience.

As ridiculous as it might sound quit the porn. This is at the core of many problems when it comes to guys as it tends to override our sex drives and causes a mess of other problems. It can even lead to erectile dysfunction.

fact: most women have higher sex drives than men...at least in my experience...difference is they have to feel some emotional trigger for a guy first or "like" him...

if u don't experience this than their IL is not that high...they are all horny as hell trust me.....i can always tell when their IL drops...by how often they initiate or hint to sex in a relationship...
 

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A woman on vacation has a fantasy built up in her mind, which includes new places, food, and phucking.

If she's with her bf and he doesn't step up to the plate and give her a good constant railing while on vacation, odds are she'll be looking to upgrade soon once she's back to daily reality.

So if you fail to get your stiffy on command, go down on her, lick her all over, take a shower together, play with her nipples as she uses one of her toys...whatever you got to do.

It would be different if these were her demands everyday after your 9-5 job and you were just tired sometimes and need her to understand your need to wind down.

But on vacation, a girl has this whole mental image about how it's supposed to go down and if you want to maintain her view of you as a high value you are going to have to show her a good time.
 

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HalfPUAHalfAFC said:
A woman on vacation has a fantasy built up in her mind, which includes new places, food, and phucking.

If she's with her bf and he doesn't step up to the plate and give her a good constant railing while on vacation, odds are she'll be looking to upgrade soon once she's back to daily reality.

So if you fail to get your stiffy on command, go down on her, lick her all over, take a shower together, play with her nipples as she uses one of her toys...whatever you got to do.

It would be different if these were her demands everyday after your 9-5 job and you were just tired sometimes and need her to understand your need to wind down.

But on vacation, a girl has this whole mental image about how it's supposed to go down and if you want to maintain her view of you as a high value you are going to have to show her a good time.
He's right. I didn't get this when I was OP's age and it was probably the beginning of the end for my LTR at the time.

It's interesting that I had the same concerns about stamina when I was 22. I wonder if the male sexual peak is shifting to later years. Because now I'm 29 and feel I'm much more capable and much more interested in marathon sex sessions.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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3-4 times shouldn't be a huge deal... Have things to do so that you aren't just lying in bed all day. And mix it up a lot, make her go down on you until you're ready, etc
 

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zinc4 said:
fact: most women have higher sex drives than men...at least in my experience...difference is they have to feel some emotional trigger for a guy first or "like" him...
Since when? Or does it become a "fact" because some random person on the internet said so? Give me solid evidence and not a plethora of highly unreliable anecdotes.

Here is a real FACT: Women have underlying motivations for having sex and the overwhelming majority of their reasons have very little or nothing to do with pleasure for its own sake.

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if u don't experience this than their IL is not that high...they are all horny as hell trust me.....i can always tell when their IL drops...by how often they initiate or hint to sex in a relationship...
I know what high IL in a woman is like and at no point in any kind of relationship (**** buddy or otherwise) are they hornier.

I do know what you mean by women needing an emotional trigger but why is it that they put out at a higher frequency and are more experimental (willing to do more sexually) in the beginning phases of a perceived relationship? After they become more comfortable there is a substantial and disturbingly noticeable dropoff.

From my experience the same women claiming they're ALWAYS horny are also the same ones complaining about guys wanting it too much and all the time.
 

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I made this more for discussion than tips although I appreciate the advice.

HalfPUAHalfAFC said:
A woman on vacation has a fantasy built up in her mind, which includes new places, food, and phucking.

If she's with her bf and he doesn't step up to the plate and give her a good constant railing while on vacation, odds are she'll be looking to upgrade soon once she's back to daily reality.

So if you fail to get your stiffy on command, go down on her, lick her all over, take a shower together, play with her nipples as she uses one of her toys...whatever you got to do.

It would be different if these were her demands everyday after your 9-5 job and you were just tired sometimes and need her to understand your need to wind down.

But on vacation, a girl has this whole mental image about how it's supposed to go down and if you want to maintain her view of you as a high value you are going to have to show her a good time.
Interesting. I always try to vary it up as much as possible and make sure she's utterly drained by the end of the trip.

He's right. I didn't get this when I was OP's age and it was probably the beginning of the end for my LTR at the time.

It's interesting that I had the same concerns about stamina when I was 22. I wonder if the male sexual peak is shifting to later years. Because now I'm 29 and feel I'm much more capable and much more interested in marathon sex sessions.
Hmm I was thinking the opposite would happen as I got older. So you're finding that your stamina has increased from when you were younger? I'm thinking the problem is in multiple ejaculations. I feel I'm fine as far as stamina is concerned and my refractory period is pretty short. However, after busting 3 or 4 tiimes a day everyday for a few days, things start to go downhill. Disciplining myself to just 1 or 2 would probably go a long way towards solving the problem.
 

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Since when? Or does it become a "fact" because some random person on the internet said so? Give me solid evidence and not a plethora of highly unreliable anecdotes.

Here is a real FACT: Women have underlying motivations for having sex and the overwhelming majority of their reasons have very little or nothing to do with pleasure for its own sake.



I know what high IL in a woman is like and at no point in any kind of relationship (**** buddy or otherwise) are they hornier.

I do know what you mean by women needing an emotional trigger but why is it that they put out at a higher frequency and are more experimental (willing to do more sexually) in the beginning phases of a perceived relationship? After they become more comfortable there is a substantial and disturbingly noticeable dropoff.

From my experience the same women claiming they're ALWAYS horny are also the same ones complaining about guys wanting it too much and all the time.
I can't speak for relationships but in the context of vacations in my experience they'll initiate it at least an equal amount. Whatever the motivations are they'll at least act as if they're hornier. I personally don't care what the motivations are. It benefits me either way.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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JoeMarron said:
I can't speak for relationships but in the context of vacations in my experience they'll initiate it at least an equal amount. Whatever the motivations are they'll at least act as if they're hornier. I personally don't care what the motivations are. It benefits me either way.
In the context of vacation it's all about novelty.
 

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zinc4 said:
fact: most women have higher sex drives than men...at least in my experience...difference is they have to feel some emotional trigger for a guy first or "like" him...

if u don't experience this than their IL is not that high...they are all horny as hell trust me.....i can always tell when their IL drops...by how often they initiate or hint to sex in a relationship...

This was definitely a FACT in all my LTR's. I've experienced both extremes: Totally energized and want more and the other would TAP out from exhaustion but man once she got that power nap in...SMH.
 

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haha I see it's a trend! My girlfriend went from being a virgin who told me she was waiting until marriage to the horniest person I've ever dealt with! It's great of course, but if I've already done it once or twice and I happen to be tired that day, sometimes it just doesn't happen for me and she gets all huffy :rolleyes:

But yes, all in all a good problem to have!
 

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JoeMarron said:
You're on vacation with your girl and you're pretty much stuck with her for a few days. She has a high libido/wants it all the time. She like many other women don't understand that men can't get hard on command and bang it out for multiple sessions in a day without negative repercussions. How do you guys handle situations like this?
I'd be skeptical I made her cvm the first time. Once or twice a night with a new chick, maybe 3 if she's ultra hot and I'm still pinging and can't sleep, after that she can find her own way, I'm sure she'll know where the door is. My sleeps more important than her trying to prove she's a sex crazed nympho with testosterone levels higher than my own. That's daddy issue territory and out of my jurisdiction.
 

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I'd be skeptical I made her cvm the first time. Once or twice a night with a new chick, maybe 3 if she's ultra hot and I'm still pinging and can't sleep, after that she can find her own way, I'm sure she'll know where the door is. My sleeps more important than her trying to prove she's a sex crazed nympho with testosterone levels higher than my own. That's daddy issue territory and out of my jurisdiction.
Lol..noted. I suppose its a form of putting the pvssy on a pedestal, going out of your way to satiate a high libido. It's hard not to keep indulging when mouth watering meals keep getting placed in front of you though.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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