"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Survey says 96% of men who try online dating will fail

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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well how many actually were looking for a girlfriend lol , most ppl i know (like myself) really only use them for a quick lay if out of options for the night ,to much baggage on the online girls
 

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I'm starting to think it's only good for hookups as well. Complete waste of time if you're serious about finding a relationship.
 

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Damn. I thought it'd be 99%. Internet dating and facebook is a waste of time and detrimental to most people's game.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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are you guys kidding? dating websites are a goldmine for women. Especially plenty of fish.

tell you what..i charge $50 per date...woman of your choice. $25 upfront then the other half after you go on the date.

I have 5 year experience with dating sites.

your own pics your own everything your own choice of woman.

I'll even offer after-date tips free of charge.

Refund guaranteed.

PM me.
 

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lol.....thats cause 95% of females only want 5% of the men available to them .. sooo... 5% of males are ****ing 95% of the females while the remaining 95% of males are left to struggle and pay for sex of date fatties and uglies... its very tough out her for most men thees days..
 

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i believe it. it's absolutely out of control.

just speaking from personal experience, the girls i get in the real world are much better quality than what's online. because i'm able to run my game so sometimes i'm able to overshoot my target and land a serious hottie that most likely would overlook me on a dating site.

your dating profile is basically a baseball card. your picture, some stats--and then the woman decides if you meet her requirements.

i put online dating on the bottom of the totem pole. cold approaches, making connections through mutual friends, finding chicks at work or school are all infinitely better. anything real world is infinitely better
 

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MisterD said:
i believe it. it's absolutely out of control.

just speaking from personal experience, the girls i get in the real world are much better quality than what's online. because i'm able to run my game so sometimes i'm able to overshoot my target and land a serious hottie that most likely would overlook me on a dating site.

your dating profile is basically a baseball card. your picture, some stats--and then the woman decides if you meet her requirements.

i put online dating on the bottom of the totem pole. cold approaches, making connections through mutual friends, finding chicks at work or school are all infinitely better. anything real world is infinitely better

Yeah. It's just like anything in life. Low risk. Low reward.

Anyone with a computer can play the game of online dating. Which means that any half-decent girl will get 100's of emails from guys who normally wouldn't have the balls to approach her in public. Actually, in public, most of these girls wouldn't be approach-worthy anyway. Because they'd be the Plain Jane's of the bar/club/party while guys are oggling the hot chicks.

So I'd agree that online is the lowest of the approach venues. But it's also the easiest. So, I can sit here at work and send a few messages to girls, and I just might get a lay out of it.

And if you're a good looking guy, you actually have a shot at getting some poon. The downside is, if you're an average looking guy, these online chicks probably won't give you a shot. Essentially, it's a meat market.
 

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Iceberg said:
Yeah. It's just like anything in life. Low risk. Low reward.

Anyone with a computer can play the game of online dating. Which means that any half-decent girl will get 100's of emails from guys who normally wouldn't have the balls to approach her in public. Actually, in public, most of these girls wouldn't be approach-worthy anyway. Because they'd be the Plain Jane's of the bar/club/party while guys are oggling the hot chicks.

So I'd agree that online is the lowest of the approach venues. But it's also the easiest. So, I can sit here at work and send a few messages to girls, and I just might get a lay out of it.

And if you're a good looking guy, you actually have a shot at getting some poon. The downside is, if you're an average looking guy, these online chicks probably won't give you a shot. Essentially, it's a meat market.
yeah. a lot of quality guys are getting their messages buried by guys with abs in their profile pics. it is what it is. i don't get bothered by it as i realize that's the name of the game. online dating is the most shallow form of dating out there.

whereas in real life, sometimes i land chicks that, when im in a reflective mood i'm like i dont know how in the world i landed a chick this hot, but whatever i did, i gotta keep doing it.

if i had approached the same chick online i would have been blown out

but like you said, it's like an equalizer. some guys are afraid to take real life risks and ask a total hottie out or approach her or whatever. so some of your competition in the real world is eliminated, sometimes making it easier to land a chick
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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just speaking from personal experience, the girls i get in the real world are much better quality than what's online. because i'm able to run my game so sometimes i'm able to overshoot my target and land a serious hottie that most likely would overlook me on a dating site.
The truth. This has been true in my experience also. The girls I've been able to land on OKC have been of generally lower quality than the ones I've hooked up with meeting in real life.

Online should only be a supplement to your game, at best. You must meet women other ways as well.
 

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Wow I've been online dating for almost 10 years now and I've had long term relps throughout. Of course they haven't been monogamous, at least not on my part ;) I agree though that the average woman is about 2 points lower online, but there are so damn many of them, plus it's free whereas clubs and bars charge you to just be in the place.

I go for quantity over quality anyway. The average chick I pull online is a 6 and puts out on the 2nd date after maybe $40 spent. I think it's good for guys who don't want relps and who want relatively inexpensive, easy lays and to kill time.

Dating is one of my many hobbies, not something I do to find "the one," and so online is perfect for me. Plus the fact that I enjoy the initial stages of a relationship rather than LTRs, and so I have a high rel'p "churn rate," means it's the perfect forum for me.
 

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You'd get better odds just going out to places and talking to women..
 

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Women get too many messages.

Men get too few replies.

If you want to look appealing, look appealing either physically or financially! If you need to, photoshop some abs onto yourself. If only I could find someone to help me out with that...

Otherwise, I use online dating to meet chicks because I hardly have time to meet women in the real world. I work a whole lot of hours.

Women online think their pu$$y is gold, and many women go on there to get an attention fix.

Often times, you gotta lie to get laid. Women prefer exciting lies over boring truths. I have my profile at age 43 right now to attract cougars and milfs. It works a lot better than when I had my real age. Now I need to make a profile at age 55 to get those milfs!

You should always use online dating as a supplement to your game. And get these girls off the internet quickly.
 

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Meh, I've laid 3 girls I met online, but I wouldn't rely on it forever.

It's a resource, that's all. It's 'another place' to meet women. Don't neglect the others.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Zarky, I hear you on the (literal) cost benefits of gaming online. I was out two nights ago; I had a blast, the natural in me finally decided to make an appearance and I came super-close to hooking something up with a (not so single) 21 yr old hipster-ish 7. But, my mate did his balls after wasting an hour on her very cute but very lesbian friend (aren't they all these days?!). And, of course, I blew chunks when I got home, then by the time I finally got my car out of the parking lot today the night has probably come to cost me about $250 in total - for no tail.

I know I can pull average girls with average minds and average interests pretty consistently online, I don't have a problem cutting through the noise on a site like PoF or OKC. I just don't get excited about the prospect of dating those girls anymore, it's a chore.

I know you're a sharp guy, don't you find yourself intellectually repulsed by the average online 6?
 

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Who in their right frame of mind would consider NOT dating some chick off of online 'dating' a failure?

Take it from me. I wouldn't waste my time and never bothered even attempting to date chicks off of POF. I used the site to kill downtime and troll chicks for my own amusement.

Trust me as well as the countless dudes who HAVE dated chicks online. The 'ladies' who use online dating are all either headcases, overweight, single moms, PREGNANT and DATING, drug users, heavy drinkers, whack jobs, bi-sexual (yes MANY), serial daters, attention wh0ring, the neighboorhood slvt, bi-polar, feminists, entitled princesses, complete morons, fresh out of relationships, drama queens, good for nothing while expecting everything yet have nothing to offer, and so on.

I had talked to TONS of chicks when I used that site from ALL OVER the US. Trust me. Chicks who use online dating use it for GOOD REASON, and there's nothing good about the reason(s) they do.

If you meet a chick in real life who tells you shes used or is on an online dating site (she's most likely had or has her profile on several sites) take it as a FULL WARNING and go complete ghost.

But if you feel like playing Russian Roulette for a quick piece of God knows what STD she carries and how many countless dudes have used her as a cvm dvmpster. Be my guest! (Yes. It's even the ugly ones and the land whales even more..)
 

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nightcrawler said:
are you guys kidding? dating websites are a goldmine for women. Especially plenty of fish.

tell you what..i charge $50 per date...woman of your choice. $25 upfront then the other half after you go on the date.

I have 5 year experience with dating sites.

your own pics your own everything your own choice of woman.

I'll even offer after-date tips free of charge.

Refund guaranteed.

PM me.
100% serious here. THIS IS NOT A TROLL POST.

I promise all of the above...if I give no results I will glady refund the money.

Been on POF for 5+ years...currently unemployeed with lots of time in my hands.

Limited promotion only. PRICES SUBJECT TO CHANGE!!!!!

happy horny friday everyone :)
 

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^lol
 

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It's so strange for me to read this because I'm having so much success. Before POF I was getting around 1 date a month, now it's usually 1 date per week with several prospects I just can't fit in.

I'm a decent looking guy and I know that goes in my favour, but I am definitely not in the top 4% best looking guys, not even top 20%, which tells me a lot of guys are just going about it all wrong.

Then again, listening to what all the women tell me, it does sound like majority of the guys on POF are clueless. They're either chumps, sleazebags or wannabe bad boys.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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