"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Bawb14

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Okay back for round two.

This time, we're moving up the ladder of embarrassing questions, if at last time it were kissing, lets move up a base. I'm a bit clueless when it comes to... err... uhh

well

you know... using the hands... fingering a girl.
(This is hard for me)

How do I? And if this is a "try it and try different ways, no way is right we cant tell you how" kinda thing, at least give me some pointers or perhaps different ways to approach... the issue.

Sorry for the err... well yeah. :nervous:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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AlexParadox

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well depends where you want to go with the make out
if you need something to do with your hands
you can either have one hand on the back of her head/back/arm, and the other rubbing her leg.

now dont just start fingering,
like with sex, you need to build up to it
while making out, start to kiss on the neck to increase sexual excitement, rub the inside of her legs, slowly getting closer and closer.

now once you muster up the courage, just slide your hand down following the skin, untill you reach your objective. if you keep your hand gliding along the skin, you'll find your entrance easily.
if you have watch any kind of porno, you will have some kind of idea of what to do. if not, go watch one.
start with getting the outside wet by massaging in a circle , then once you feel confident start to slowly go in.

imagine a kid testing out the pool with his toe. little at first, then slowly more and more untill all the way in.

now you need to decide where are you going with this, you leading it up to sex or are you just going to finger. you also should be aware of how experienced the girl is, and her own comfort zone.
 

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P0rnos are misleading. And I didn't start there, I got there, but then I realized I don't really know what to do that well. What kind of motion do I use i guess, and do i do anything to the cl1t?:woo:
 

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G-Spot, about 3/4 of your finger in and to the top. Palm facing up.
 

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G-spot..well, it can lead to some pretty awesome things, but I'd suggest that you stick to playing around with the cl!t first. It's much easier, more "intuitive" (it takes as little as one session to learn what to do without any previous info if the girl is a bit patient..actual experience) and will get you the results you want. Just two things:
1) don't go too hard, it can hurt..a lot
2) don't only care about the cl!t, make sure you work you way to it after some stroking and stuff..and once you finally get to stimulate it, don't spend all your finger time on it either, move away for a while, play around, then get back..makes the girl enjoy in a lot more
And what Alex said is true too..especially the part about neck, if you do it well enough, you can make her so horny that she almost moans more and breathes faster and depper than if you were actualyl fvckign her..actual experience again :D )
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Bawb14 said:
P0rnos are misleading. And I didn't start there, I got there, but then I realized I don't really know what to do that well. What kind of motion do I use i guess, and do i do anything to the cl1t?:woo:
Flick the cl1t back and forth and the motion you use for your finger is in and out. Put the finger in slowly and pull it out much faster. Repeat this and go faster as the makeout session becomes more intense. I know it sounds crazy, but google it, tons of tips/advice there.

Remember to cut your nails as well.
 
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