"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Suggestions Wanted - how to get the # from an email

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Hello gentlemen,

There's this 7.5 (but I give her an 8.5 for speaking 8 languages and having a very nice accent : )), she's in a club with me and I've spoken to her a few times. Since I'm on the exec (muahahaha) I had her email address, so I invited her to a party at my place, she came and left. I should have gotten the # but that's in the past now.

So now, I think she's interested (if not who cares anyway), but all I have is her email addy. What do you gentlemen recommend? Email her about going out, ask for her phone number by email? How do you get a girl's phone number by email? I probably won't see her for another month if I don't act, but I have no idea how.

Hahahaha, maybe I should just write only one line, "What's your phone number?"

Bahahaha, that would rock.

Your thoughts please.

Izza
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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OK

Thanks for the chorus of help guys :cool:

I ended up sending an email, no subject, with just one line: "What's your phone number?" and signed my name. Hahaha, we'll see how that goes, couple bucks says she challenges me or just simply doesn't respond.

I can't believe I sent this email on Valentines Day, that was slow of me.

*reeking of desperation* (oh well, too bad)

Izza
 
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If this girl is in a club with you then why won't you see her again for a month? If that's the case, then I guess you have to ask her number by e-mail. I don't think I would go with your plan to have it only be the subject heading, but I guess it could work.

I think you should have acted faster and tried to set up a date with her for V-day. If she would rather be alone on V-day then on a date with you then you probably want to next her. Or if she's seeing someone else, then you would find that out early.
 

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Originally posted by Dapper Swindler
If this girl is in a club with you then why won't you see her again for a month? If that's the case, then I guess you have to ask her number by e-mail. I don't think I would go with your plan to have it only be the subject heading, but I guess it could work.

I think you should have acted faster and tried to set up a date with her for V-day. If she would rather be alone on V-day then on a date with you then you probably want to next her. Or if she's seeing someone else, then you would find that out early.
The club only meets once a month, sometimes more - we give charity concerts for the blind and elderly (yea I know, I'm a saint :- P).

I had no subject heading, and made "what's your phone number? Izza" the body. Yea, I definitely should have acted faster, but I don't know about the date for V-day - that kind of reeks of using someone else so that you don't feel like you're a loser on V-day. Not sexy, and not a good way to be. Just my opinion.

Izza
 

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Well, me have the digits :- D

Now I have to think of somewhere to take her, so long as she's treating me right.

Izza
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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