Sugar Daddy discussion on StripperWeb

[Findog]

Also, since "AFC" and "Nice Guy" are often used interchangeably, it's kind of strange to think of "Nice Guys" as being the ones keeping the strippers in business. Something doesn't seem right here. Wouldn't a "Bad Boy" be more likely to go see a stripper?

I really have no idea who over the age of 25 goes to a strip club when the occasion isn't a bachelor party. When my buddies and I turned 21, we enjoyed the novelty of being able to go, but that quickly wore off. I remember thinking that I did not want to one day be the 57 year old guy there by himself.

 

[Desdinova]

I know what you're saying, there wouldn't be as much pedestalizing. But I think it's a little ridiculous to blame the poor AFCs for everything. It's all just men and women really. A result of men being the pursuer and women being the pursued.

Of course it's not just the AFCs that are fvcking up the quality of a woman. There's other things that contribute to it such as medical conditions, drugs, alcohol, feminism, and even the 'jerks' they fall for.

But a large part of it is the result of AFCs she interacts with. Her dad bought her whatever she wanted because he's an AFC. Her uncle jimbo shoved his d1ck inside her when she was 8 years old because he's an AFC.

A woman is only as good as the morals she has. If she learns that she can get whatever she wants because she's a cute female, she's going to be a pain in the ass for a DJ. He then has to work at undoing all the conditioning that was brought upon by the AFCs that spoiled her rotten little ass.

If the AFCs weren't around, the PUAs would still be competing for the attractive women's attention. Except there would be like eight times as many PUAs, all AMOGing each other to try to get the girl. Women would be flooded with attention. Maybe they wouldn't get any gifts (PUAs are notoriously cheap). But they'd be getting sexual validation like crazy.

And that's how things were at one point in history. It's called survival of the fittest.

Besides which, aren't AFCs supposed to be afraid to approach? A world with more PUAs would just result in women getting waaay more offers. I've never bought into this idea that AFCs are responsible for women's sense of entitlement. It just doesn't make sense.

Not necessarily. I've seen them approach. They ultimately fvck up in attracting the woman, but they can approach.

Also, since "AFC" and "Nice Guy" are often used interchangeably, it's kind of strange to think of "Nice Guys" as being the ones keeping the strippers in business. Something doesn't seem right here. Wouldn't a "Bad Boy" be more likely to go see a stripper?

The only reason for a bad boy to go see a stripper is to hang out with his buddies and fulfill the social role of a man. If he's got women begging him for attention, he has no need for strippers.

Strippers fuel the fantasy of the AFC, and AFCs with fat wallets fulfill the fantasy of the stripper. Both scinerios only bring temporary happiness.

 

[MatureDJ]

These women are basically wh0res who try to welch out on giving up the good stuff after bleeding their Sugar Daddies on shopping excursions - as obviously these Sugar Daddies are expecting the poon tang at some time.

Any "relationship" I've had with a stripper involved me paying for a lap dance or two and walking out of the club with a wet spot below the belt (I always wear sweat pants, freeballing.)

Going on shopping trips with these chicks - WTF?

 

[zekko]

Of course it's not just the AFCs that are fvcking up the quality of a woman. There's other things that contribute to it such as medical conditions, drugs, alcohol, feminism, and even the 'jerks' they fall for.

But a large part of it is the result of AFCs she interacts with. Her dad bought her whatever she wanted because he's an AFC. Her uncle jimbo shoved his d1ck inside her when she was 8 years old because he's an AFC.

I agree there are a lot of factors that contribute to low quality women.
The supplicating is definitely bad.
I don't think having a world full of PUAs is the answer.

A woman is only as good as the morals she has.

If you espouse morals, you're labeled a nice guy.

If she learns that she can get whatever she wants because she's a cute female, she's going to be a pain in the ass for a DJ. He then has to work at undoing all the conditioning that was brought upon by the AFCs that spoiled her rotten little ass.

Oh, the poor DJ. Does her being spoiled make it less convenient for him to pump and dump her? I could see that might be a problem.

Not necessarily. I've seen them approach. They ultimately fvck up in attracting the woman, but they can approach

Shall we say they approach less often?

The only reason for a bad boy to go see a stripper is to hang out with his buddies and fulfill the social role of a man. If he's got women begging him for attention, he has no need for strippers.

To see a new set of boobs? Or to try and bang a stripper (which some guys see as a prize, or an ultimate game challenge?). If the AFC is married, will his wife allow him in the strip club?

 

[Desdinova]

Oh, the poor DJ. Does her being spoiled make it less convenient for him to pump and dump her? I could see that might be a problem.

Of course not, but not everyone is in the game to pump and dump women. I personally cannot fvck a woman who has a 5hitty personality.

To see a new set of boobs? Or to try and bang a stripper (which some guys see as a prize, or an ultimate game challenge?). If the AFC is married, will his wife allow him in the strip club?

I've been to the strip club quite a few times when I was a single and engaged AFC. The only time I've been to the strip club as a DJ was for my bachelor party, and it was the most pointless event I've ever been to. If I can easily game women and get them into bed, why would I need to go somewhere to cream my pants and get no action?

But you do have a point with men wanting to fvck strippers for the ultimate challenge. Honestly, with the combined 5hitty personality, the amount of negs it would take to pull her off the pedestal, and the chance that she might be loaded with diseases, it's a complete turn-off to me. Seducing an equally attractive woman off the street is safer, easier, and cheaper.

But for a guy to WANT to be a stripper's sugar daddy is beyond me. Even in my AFC days, no woman was worth any large amount of money. Back when I was 18, me and a friend were at the bar and met up with two very attractive women. They flirted a lot with us, and one was working us to get free drinks. I tried to warn him about this chick, but he happily loaned her money, her friends money, and bought her drinks. She got around $200 out of him. When he ran out of money, she disappeared and he was still a virgin.

At least I was a virgin with my cash still intact

 

[zekko]

Of course not, but not everyone is in the game to pump and dump women. I personally cannot fvck a woman who has a 5hitty personality.

Me neither. Nice level headed response. I confess my remark was a little naughty, I couldn't resist.

As for strippers, I've never understood the attraction. I guess it's something like banging a porn star, but that idea doesn't appeal to me either.

The only times I've been in strip clubs is when friends dragged me in there.
And I also went a few times to support a female friend who had recently gotten a job stripping. Guys ask girls to come support their rock band, and girls ask guys to come watch them strip I guess. Lol.

 

[Zarky]

Does her being spoiled make it less convenient for him to pump and dump her?

A woman being "spoiled" makes it far less rewarding and far more annoying to interact with her in any way. Pump and dump, relationship, marriage, or even just friends.

Part of being a successful seducer is to be able to quickly identify and avoid "spoiled" women, who will ultimately waste your time, money, or both. Being successful doesn't mean you are able to bone every woman you come across, it means that you know how to maximize your sexual rewards, which often includes "nexting" women like these.