Sugar Daddy discussion on StripperWeb

[Zarky]

Found this site in a link from a blog. Thought you guys might be interested. For your amusement and enlightenment, I give you the StripperWeb forums, where strippers can talk about their lives.

Here's a discussion on getting/maintaining a Sugar Daddy. For the love of christ don't register and post anything there. Discuss here.

"Hustling Customer Turning Sugar Daddy-Need Tips on Detachment also!"

http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=157327

Read that thread in its entirety (only 2 pages). Then dig in to your heart's content. The site is a gold mine.

 

[3countriesPlan]

Dont taunt hustlers.. game recognizes game people.. I just joined and would be more than happy to hash game with them. No need to try to attack them or change their minds. Thanks for the link OP

 

[Bible_Belt]

Strippers are just like us. Notice all that they do to keep the power in a relationship: seeing multiple people, staying emotionally disconnected, limiting availability, and ending the relationship when it has run its course. Substitute the word "pvssy" for every time they say "wallet/$," and it's all the same advice that works for men.

 

[DJDamage]

Seems to me that sugar daddy in the stripper story is running or attempting to run his own little game on her.

 

[Burroughs]

Here is the strippers take on one of our discussion articles...interesting

http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=164107

 

[Zarky]

Seems to me that sugar daddy in the stripper story is running or attempting to run his own little game on her.

Yes, it does appear so, but it seems to be sort of a weird, needy, passive-aggressive, emotionally fvcked-up sort of game. It could probably work in that sick sugar-daddy/sugar-baby type of relationship, but it's so far from my reality that it's nothing I would ever find myself engaging in.

I mean, the guy has dropped $thousands without even getting a kiss from the chick. You could take that money, fly to Vegas, buy a half-dozen very high-quality hookers who would blow your mind, and still have gambling money left over. And the other b1tch who said that some dude dropped $6500 on her plus $6500 on her friend in one month? Who has $13,000 to spend on some bimbo and her friend each month? More money than sense, obviously. Give me $150,000 a year like that to spend on women and I'd bone half of southern california.

And I agree, to a certain extent, that these chicks are like male "players" with the substitute of cash for pvssy. However, theirs is based fundamentally on looks whereas men's game is not. No matter how much "game" a fatty has, she could never pull off what these strippers pull off.

EDIT:

This reminds me of an excellent movie to see for observing 2 very different styles of "getting" a chick... Casino. Watch the difference between Robert DeNiro's character and James Woods' character. Hugely relevant to this discussion.

 

[Zarky]

I just joined and would be more than happy to hash game with them.

I'm sure they have absolutely no interest in "hashing game" with you. If you, as a man, aren't giving them money, they have no interest in you or your opinions. You will be banned in short order and will mess up their candid discussion in the meantime.

 

[zekko]

It interested me that one of the girls suggested giggling a lot.

I know a former stripper, and a waitress who worked in a strip joint.
The stripper girl giggles almost constantly, in lieu of conversation.
The waitress girl doesn't giggle so much, but she laughs at almost anything you say. I always wondered if this was from sort of training instruction they received for dealing with men.

 

[Zarky]

I always wondered if this was from sort of training instruction they received for dealing with men.

Probably, those women are hustlers down to their core. They hustle men, women, everybody, all the time.

 

[DJDamage]

Yes, it does appear so, but it seems to be sort of a weird, needy, passive-aggressive, emotionally fvcked-up sort of game. .

Fvcked up sort of game will work on fvcked up sort of women like strippers who run their own game. This stripper admitted that she is losing a hand with this guy and that she in fact likes him and is going to fvck him.

My guess is that this guy has been seeing strippers on a regular basis and sort of developed his own system.

I mean, the guy has dropped $thousands without even getting a kiss from the chick. You could take that money, fly to Vegas, buy a half-dozen very high-quality hookers who would blow your mind, and still have gambling money left over.

Well it sounds to me like he is a hotshot lawyer with money to burn and very little time to do anything else. Therefore throwing money on a hot stripper so he can eventually buy that pvssy on a regular basis will serve him better then finding the time for dating.

 

[DJDamage]

Yes, it does appear so, but it seems to be sort of a weird, needy, passive-aggressive, emotionally fvcked-up sort of game. .

Fvcked up sort of game will work on fvcked up sort of women like strippers who run their own game. This stripper admitted that she is losing a hand with this guy and that she in fact likes him and is going to fvck him.

My guess is that this guy has been seeing strippers on a regular basis and sort of developed his own system.

I mean, the guy has dropped $thousands without even getting a kiss from the chick. You could take that money, fly to Vegas, buy a half-dozen very high-quality hookers who would blow your mind, and still have gambling money left over.

Well it sounds to me like he is a hotshot lawyer with money to burn and very little time to do anything else. Therefore throwing money on a hot stripper so he can eventually buy that pvssy on a regular basis will serve him better then finding the time for dating.

 

[Zarky]

My guess is that this guy has been seeing strippers on a regular basis and sort of developed his own system.

Perhaps! But--and this is just my own opinion--I don't think any 'system' which involves offering to give a girl your ATM card number and PIN just so she'll come over and sit on your lap is a good one. It just seems like that 'system' would not attract the best ladies out there, if you're looking for LTR. And if you're looking for just pvssy then it can be achieved with much less money and energy. But if anyone here wants to try it I'd love to hear how that works.

From reading other posts I think the women of the forum have it right--lots of guys are looking for some unattainable "fantasy" woman. And since there really aren't any of those in existence, the guys make these women into one. They literally put them on a pedestal. I don't know what sort of pathology is required to make a man fill his needs in this way, and I hope I never know.

 

[Desdinova]

This is purely in line with something that I've been thinking about over the last little while. I've been thinking about how much the AFC actually corrupts women. Women who have zero dating experience are at one end of the scale, and women who are extremely spoiled by AFCs on the other end. AFCs enter the picture any time while the girl is in high school and the corruption begins.

Ugly women will generally be the ones who are at the low end of the scale, while extremely attractive women are higher up. However, many exceptions do exist. AFCs who are extremely desperate for attention will date unattractive women for the attention and move her ahead on the scale by attempting to keep her with gifts and attention. Women who have been raised in a sheltered environment will be low on the scale regardless of their looks.

The women on StripperWeb are on the high end of the scale where they've been so corrupted by the attention of AFCs that ANY morals or values have been completely eliminated. They're conditioned to living a lavish lifestyle and are valueless when it comes to having any kind of a quality relationship.

So, what the hell does all of this mean?

A woman's quality can be in direct proportion to how much exposure she's had to AFCs. A good 60-90% of the men out there are AFCs who have been trained that the way to a woman's heart is through showering her with gifts and attention. Therefore, the less dating experience a woman has, the better quality she will be.

Imagine how many more quality women we'd have in the world if the AFC population was more around 5-20%. Forums like this and StripperWeb wouldn't exist.

 

[Zarky]

^^^^ I agree mostly. Keep in mind that these chicks are bombarded with AFCs when they're young, and then as they age even the AFCs don't pine after them so much any more. So when you say this:

Therefore, the less dating experience a woman has, the better quality she will be.

...I would say that's true if corrected for age. If she had a billion AFCs a decade ago but now she's old enough that guys treat her more crappily, her dating "quality" could rise.

One of the reasons I date older (mid-30s to 40s) women. They've been recently beaten down in the dating world by guys who aren't all that interested. At that age the MORE they date the better, since their experiences are more negative due to their declining mating market value.

 

[Desdinova]

...I would say that's true if corrected for age. If she had a billion AFCs a decade ago but now she's old enough that guys treat her more crappily, her dating "quality" could rise.

One of the reasons I date older (mid-30s to 40s) women. They've been recently beaten down in the dating world by guys who aren't all that interested. At that age the MORE they date the better, since their experiences are more negative due to their declining mating market value.

I most certainly see your point. Most women will NOT reach the level of being spoiled that those strippers have. But even then, the quality of these women can fluctuate. A former stripper who is now in her 60s will have her 'quality' improved because even most AFCs don't want to fvck a wrinkled bag of prunes. However, her personality is still going to reflect her life experiences unless she makes a considerable effort to change herself.

The way I see it, it may be easier to find a quality woman who's younger and less spoiled than a quality woman who used to be spoiled.

 

[pdx1138]

Imagine how many more quality women we'd have in the world if the AFC population was more around 5-20%. Forums like this and StripperWeb wouldn't exist.

That's a world I'd like to be in.

+1

 

[SgtSplacker]

Nobodys on your side but you gentlemen. And it doesnt have to be strippers or hookers to have this attitude. Plenty of regular girls I have seen with this attitude as well. As soon as I even think I detect an aire of this attitude in a woman I loose all interest in her. This thread was an extreme example of what most girls do with drinks in a club usually. And among women it is generally praised to be this way...

 

[Burroughs]

The solution..quick, easy, efficient. Oh yes and clean.

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[DMEDFISIK]

I am really disappointed there are men that spend this much on women. But I'm not surprised.

 

[zekko]

Imagine how many more quality women we'd have in the world if the AFC population was more around 5-20%.

I know what you're saying, there wouldn't be as much pedestalizing. But I think it's a little ridiculous to blame the poor AFCs for everything. It's all just men and women really. A result of men being the pursuer and women being the pursued.

If the AFCs weren't around, the PUAs would still be competing for the attractive women's attention. Except there would be like eight times as many PUAs, all AMOGing each other to try to get the girl. Women would be flooded with attention. Maybe they wouldn't get any gifts (PUAs are notoriously cheap). But they'd be getting sexual validation like crazy.

Besides which, aren't AFCs supposed to be afraid to approach? A world with more PUAs would just result in women getting waaay more offers. I've never bought into this idea that AFCs are responsible for women's sense of entitlement. It just doesn't make sense.

Also, since "AFC" and "Nice Guy" are often used interchangeably, it's kind of strange to think of "Nice Guys" as being the ones keeping the strippers in business. Something doesn't seem right here. Wouldn't a "Bad Boy" be more likely to go see a stripper?