"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Successful guys, do you fill out income section on online dating?

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this is an interesting topic

At first glance, you would say only a gold digger would care about finances but if i had to pick between 2 identical women and 1 made 100K and 1 made 20, I would much rather go for the successful one

What have you guys experienced?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Amante Silvestre said:
A true gold digger isn't going to pay you much mind if you're not pulling in at least $250k+. And I would consider that just "entry level" territory.

Women drawn by a salary less than that are either just looking for an equal, or, they're broke and have no idea what rich/successful really is.

Depends on the site too. Match's highest bracket is $150k+. That alone won't attract gold diggers, but pics of you dipicting a very well off lifestyle will.

I list my salary. I more often find my equals. Haven't had issues with gold diggers to date.
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you find attractive women with high incomes on dating sites who want to date you?

that's phenomenal
 
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Amante Silvestre said:
Most of these women have already dated/married the rich guy and now theyre just looking for a REAL MAN, rather than a provider.
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PUA Bro Theory tells you that women fvck alphas until they hit the wall, then marry a beta. So you're saying there's another stage after this when they get divorced and seek an alpha?
 
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zekko said:
PUA Bro Theory tells you that women fvck alphas until they hit the wall, then marry a beta. So you're saying there's another stage after this when they get divorced and seek an alpha?
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PUA bro theory, what a joke. :)
 
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Amante Silvestre said:
Quite often meet one here and there who make more than I do. Not unusual for me to date women with Masters or PhDs. A few lawyers...

It's probably easier for me now at my age though. Most of these women have already dated/married the rich guy and now theyre just looking for a REAL MAN, rather than a provider.

A real man who makes enough on his own to keep up with their lifestyle so they don't have to be someone's sugar momma is perfect.
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I want somebody who makes a decent income but nothing crazy

My best friend is with a dentist who makes 250K a year. Guess what? she works 70 hours a week. I went to their house on Saturday and she was doing work stuff on her lap top ON A SATURDAY NIGHT AT 11!

That would drive me absolutely insane. A teacher making 60K a year would be perfect TBH
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It depends on website, E-Harmony is filled with professional women with master degrees or higher , and they are not necessary gold digger , but want some one who is doing well. I have found money/career/education weight more on eharmony than if you are on POF or other semi hookup website.
 
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