"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Success Stories!

Heretolearn

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Hey,

We seem to always speak about the negative around here but I know a lot of you guys are really positive people.

So........

Lets hear your success stories here. Everyone will be different, whatever it is.

For me, I have conquered the fear of rejection at the moment. *I have just been chatting to everyone I see who looks interesting lately from man, dog, woman to child - Really helping me develop my social skills.

I have been rejected just for a conversation so many times that I can now try and speak to most people :)

* As a consequence I have met some really awesome people!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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bauer_23

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so far since my first post, I have had moderate sucsess with the ladies. My first night out I was primarily focused on just getting my conversation/ pick up skills to a good level, and I did that. probably could have F-- closed on one, but didnt for whatever reason. A week later, I F- close someone at a house party with minimal effort on my part, but still utilizing alot of things ive read on this board. The primary aspect was that i have been having fun lately, and its making all the difference at this point.

I cant keep count how many times ive been rejected at this point, but at this early point ive already had sucsess. Need to continue it for the rest of the year!! :)
 

shyguy32

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I'm still working too, I haven't had too many rejections and I don't know why I'm not more confident. I actually had 2 chicks just walk up and put their phone numbers on my table while I was eating lunch. Now they weren't like super hot or anything, but I still thought it was saying something about me.

I'm a good looking guy or so I've been told on many occasions, yet my confidence is still not what it should be. My main problem is my conversation skills, they really need improvement.

For the successes I've had it's has had a lot to do with this site. I smile a lot more, make EC more often and don't care if they see me. I'm still working on things and have come a long way. And hopefully I'll keep learning and won't get back into the AFC mentality.
 

WestCoaster

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This site has helped me dump my AFC attitude, as well as bounce back from rejections and dumpings better than ever.

On the real positive side, I've easily doubled or tripled my dating numbers since discovering this site. I took the philosophies to heart, and they've worked. Yeah, some of the tips and stuff don't work for everyone, but the basic philosophies are true.

Once I adopted them I started asking out more women, getting more dates, and when I got rejected -- instead of brooding like in the past -- I just bounced over to someone else.

Too bad that more men don't know about these philosophies, and it's too bad there are others who know about it and doubt them. The principles work.
 

Heretolearn

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Good posts - also try and post some immediate successes so everyone is on the same uplifting page :)

I think everyone should remember the ride is a rollercoaster for us all (ups and downs) so share the ups for the guys on the other phases.

I have met some girls I would not have thought I could possibly meet (cultural reasons) lately :)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Tallerguy

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I have become the leader of a large mixed sex group of cool people I drink with most weekends. I am regularly introduced to new and interesting people. I am currently in a STR with a HB8 and have lots of chicks on the "back burner" including a HB9. I have a group of pivots I regularly drink with in the week and am probably the most socially proofed guy in my home town.

Pre November, before discovering DJ and MASF I had a two year dry spell and had control breathing and shaking hands issues around HB's.

I am lucky I had a quick turn around :D

Tallerguy UK
"he who hesitates, masturbates"
 

JC9

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I discovered this site in mid december.

I was pretty much a super AFC before reading the information in the DJ Bible.

Since then I have met, number closed, and gone out with 8 different girls; which is more than all my previous dating experience combined.

The best success I have had however, is that rejections actually make me smile now. Not that I gain some sort of pleasure out of rejection, but that it doesn't mean anything to my anymore; the fear is gone.

I still don't have very many of the techniques down that are discussed on these forums, but changing my attitude and perceptions alone have made a world of difference.
 

speedo_meme

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damnit, clicked too many times...
 

speedo_meme

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Yeah I can pretty much give 100% credit for my success to this site also. I stumbled upon it in the midst of a breakup looking for some good news to fuel my AFCdom. A year later, I'm finally "getting it". Once you get it, that's really all the advice you will ever need, but I keep coming back to keep myself sharp. I've banged 9 girls over the course of last year and now have a great LTR that lets me penetrate her anywhere (I can say that because we're all anonymous :D ).

I now laugh at all the other AFCs out there who think I'm stupid but still wonder why I get girls with little effort and they spend thousands and get dumped. It's a shame they don't listen to me, and they still go on asking girls for advice and repeating the vicious AFC cycle over and over again...
 
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