"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Suburban Dating

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I live in the suburbs about an hour outside of a big city. Although this place is slowing growing, (ie - people that work in the big city choose to live outside of it, and prefer to commute, but those are mostly families)

Anyways, I find it a challenge to meet people in the area, organically. I mean, I could hit the grocery store, chat up a lady there. There's also a local bookstore, and talk to a strange lady there.

But...I gave up on that a long time ago (in my 20s) when I was just seeing 20-something women with wedding rings on their fingers, pushing baby strollers with their husbands. Yeah, they start off pretty young.

Sometimes I'd be fooled up to the point, because I wouldn't see a ring on their finger...and boom, her boyfriend, Bubba, shows up from around the corner before I make my way over.

That was then, but now with online dating, I've been mostly doing that...but don't worry I DO get out of the house, but...I don't approach around here much anymore, only because people around here are "townies" and tend to hang with their old high school mates.

Yeah, weird right? They aren't open to meeting NEW people outside of those who graduated in the the 1990s. Still kind of a "fishbowl" community as it were.

I tend to go to the neighboring big city, an hour away, but when I mingle...and the find out where I live...they are like "Oh he's geographically undesirable" I knew a woman that told me a similar experience she had with a guy she met in a night club....when HE found out where she lives (she also lived in the burbs, made the commute that night with friends to the club an hour away) he said, "Oh, you're G.U.!"

So I don't know if any of you live on the outskirts of a major city, but has it been a hinderance in your dating situation? Has it limited opportunties to meet available women?

I already tapped out of the women I emailed that live locally to me...they aren't responsive and still exist as spinsters on the sites till this day (no one's ever good enough, even if the dating options are limited, but that's another story)

But if it's not a issue with you, do you know someone with this issue?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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AlphaNate

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Make the hour trip, talk to as many women as possible, get 10 numbers, get 5 responses, end up spinning 3 of them.

Repeat as necessary.
 

FwoGiZ

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Make the hour trip, talk to as many women as possible, get 10 numbers, get 5 responses, end up spinning 3 of them.

Repeat as necessary.
And drive 1 hr everytime to get laid?

I am in a similar situation... 1h30 from Toronto but there is still about 60k people around where I live, but all very very very low quality people.. the ****tiest in the province! Renown for teen pregnancy rate and high violence rate :(
I found out the best way for me is to get into a circle of friend and then become the alpha of them. Doesn't last very long obviously but once you get the hang of it, it's the easiest, best supply of sex plus my gf helps a ton ... I gotta admit haha
 

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Easy. NJ is sandwhiched between NYC and Philly, so I live this reality every day.

Your geographic location can make you undesireable in online dating, so either lie on on your profile or give a general city description ("<big city> area").

You must know this doesn't help your case, so keep your mouth shut. Don't ask a woman what town she's from, as that will prompt her to ask your location (which can turn her off).

As far as meeting women your odds will be worse online so focus on meeting them in person. Find events in the city to attend and meet your women there. Try to stack your dates in the city and piggy back off more events you'll atttend anyway, to avoid wasting your time and gas on the hour trip.

If they ask where you live just say I'm in the burbs but work / play in the city every week, then change the subject. It's only a negative if you reveal too much about your location before she's hooked. Once you get her 2-3 dates in with high enough interest level, she'll make the trek out to see you.
 

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Move.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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EyeBRollin

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Well, you're stuck then. You're just going to have to sort out whatever it is that's holding you from moving. That is if you really want to fix your conundrum.
Moving isn't required. A woman will move for you if she likes you enough. An hour sucks but it could be a lot worse.

If you tell her you rob banks, she'll drop you. If you wait until she's gone over you, she'll rob the banks for you.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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That was then, but now with online dating, I've been mostly doing that...but don't worry I DO get out of the house, but...I don't approach around here much anymore, only because people around here are "townies" and tend to hang with their old high school mates.
We are not worrying bro.

Yeah, weird right? They aren't open to meeting NEW people outside of those who graduated in the the 1990s. Still kind of a "fishbowl" community as it were.
Not really. I wouldn't be open to meeting new people if they offered no value.

I tend to go to the neighboring big city, an hour away, but when I mingle...and the find out where I live...they are like "Oh he's geographically undesirable" I knew a woman that told me a similar experience she had with a guy she met in a night club....when HE found out where she lives (she also lived in the burbs, made the commute that night with friends to the club an hour away) he said, "Oh, you're G.U.!"

So I don't know if any of you live on the outskirts of a major city, but has it been a hinderance in your dating situation? Has it limited opportunties to meet available women?

I already tapped out of the women I emailed that live locally to me...they aren't responsive and still exist as spinsters on the sites till this day (no one's ever good enough, even if the dating options are limited, but that's another story)

But if it's not a issue with you, do you know someone with this issue?
Conflicting post bro. Your ego is pretty high but then you complain you have problems picking up because you live 60 minutes away from good looking girls, and the ones that are close to you aren't 'good enough' for you.

Why do you automatically think you are good enough for the ones that live 60 minutes away? Brutal. o_O
 

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We are not worrying bro.



Not really. I wouldn't be open to meeting new people if they offered no value.



Conflicting post bro. Your ego is pretty high but then you complain you have problems picking up because you live 60 minutes away from good looking girls, and the ones that are close to you aren't 'good enough' for you.

Why do you automatically think you are good enough for the ones that live 60 minutes away? Brutal. o_O
Woops, sorry, I didn't clarify. When I said "no one was good enough" I mean' "No one is good enough...for the women" not ME. lol They just continue to sit there online, forever, waiting for their mystery man to wander randomly into suburbia.
 
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