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Simply put, a woman that doesnt submit (and in a respectable amount of time) is the beginning of needy behavior and a toxic relationship. Period.
A woman being submissive is the single most important factor in having a successful relationship (plate, fwb, gf, fiance, wife) with a woman.
Let me just start with this: there are 2 components in any relationship that you must have in order to be the leader and for the relationship to be fulfilling: A woman submitting and you having more control than her in the relationship.
Lets start by identifying these things:
1.) A woman will NOT submit to you unless you check her boxes and she knows that she will NOT easily find someone "on your level", making you extremely hard to replace and increasing your value. Remember that one woman might see you as a 10 and another sees you as a 7......so this is not a one size fits all statement as not every man meets every woman's needs. And that is ok. There are millions of women out there that you will find attractive and vise versa.
2.) A woman will NOT submit to you unless she sees you as equal or higher value as her. This is why self improvement is so important as it opens up many more options in the dating world. The higher you increase your value, the more options you will have and the easier it is to have women submit.
3.) A woman who doesnt see you as the best possible dating candidate will almost always have the same behaviors that you will have to deal with until she dumps you: Disrespect, flirting/texting other guys, etc. No woman will act like this if you are her best option and she submits to you.
The higher the value she sees you, the more she will invest and in turn have more to lose if she does something to run you off. Lets not forget that an abundance mindset, no needy behavior (over texting, too available, not on your purpose, no other dating options) and a strong boundary for how you allow people to treat you drastically raises your value in a woman's eyes.
This forum is filled with stories of how disrespectful women can act. They act that way because they have little respect for the man and they act out in disrespectful behavior. We all know that first there must be attraction, that leads to high interest and then the woman will start determining if she respects you are not. That is done by challenging your frame, sometimes in very little shyte tests. Once she finds out that your frame is stronger than an oak, she will stop the tests and submit.
ATTRACTION-HIGH INTEREST-RESPECT=SUBMITTING
So how long does it take for a woman to submit? I think that if you are seeing someone once a week for the first 2-3 weeks and then move to seeing her twice a week after a month and go from there, it will take about 2-3 months before she truly submits. Be very leery of a woman that submits much sooner than this as she is desperate and there is an underlying reason for that. Why would a woman submit before she gets to know you? You have done nothing to deserve it and she is just wanting to cling onto anyone stable at that point. Not a good situation.
If you have been seeing someone consistently for 3-4 months and you are getting some disrespectful behavior, she is still texting other guys, etc., you need to eject and move on because she doesnt respect you enough or you are not high enough value for her to fully submit. She sees you as a stepping stone until she finds someone that is better.......not a good situation.
My take is 3-4 months is the max amount of time for a woman to submit (considering you are not seeing each other all the time in the beginning.......and why would you be if you have OPTIONS and an abundance mindset?). If it doesnt happen by then, you are spinning your wheels......and most likely putting up with disrespectful behavior from her.
A quick example- I have been dating a 31 yr old nurse practitioner for almost 3 months. She is super cool and we click really well together. Once we started talking there were really no shyte tests or anything else she was throwing out there testing me with (by product of a strong frame). Now I dont expect any woman in her right mind to submit to me in a really short amount of time because it shows she doesnt have any options and something must be wrong with her and at the 2 month mark her actions showed that she had very much submitted. Zero signs of disrespect since the beginning. If there would happen to be signs of disrespect that show up I would simply use silence and distance or walk away. I have too high standards for myself to put up with that, but typically disrespect shows up very early when a woman is not going to be submissive for whatever reason.
Work on yourself daily, increase your value and open new doors and expand the amount of women who are attracted to you and see you as high value. Make yourself the prize. Have options and an abundance mindset. Have high standards for how you allow people to treat you.
Just dont forget that a woman who doesnt submit in 2-4 months is leading you down a toxic road......if that is the case you need to work on your frame and eliminate any needy behavior.
Happy Hunting
A woman being submissive is the single most important factor in having a successful relationship (plate, fwb, gf, fiance, wife) with a woman.
Let me just start with this: there are 2 components in any relationship that you must have in order to be the leader and for the relationship to be fulfilling: A woman submitting and you having more control than her in the relationship.
Lets start by identifying these things:
1.) A woman will NOT submit to you unless you check her boxes and she knows that she will NOT easily find someone "on your level", making you extremely hard to replace and increasing your value. Remember that one woman might see you as a 10 and another sees you as a 7......so this is not a one size fits all statement as not every man meets every woman's needs. And that is ok. There are millions of women out there that you will find attractive and vise versa.
2.) A woman will NOT submit to you unless she sees you as equal or higher value as her. This is why self improvement is so important as it opens up many more options in the dating world. The higher you increase your value, the more options you will have and the easier it is to have women submit.
3.) A woman who doesnt see you as the best possible dating candidate will almost always have the same behaviors that you will have to deal with until she dumps you: Disrespect, flirting/texting other guys, etc. No woman will act like this if you are her best option and she submits to you.
The higher the value she sees you, the more she will invest and in turn have more to lose if she does something to run you off. Lets not forget that an abundance mindset, no needy behavior (over texting, too available, not on your purpose, no other dating options) and a strong boundary for how you allow people to treat you drastically raises your value in a woman's eyes.
This forum is filled with stories of how disrespectful women can act. They act that way because they have little respect for the man and they act out in disrespectful behavior. We all know that first there must be attraction, that leads to high interest and then the woman will start determining if she respects you are not. That is done by challenging your frame, sometimes in very little shyte tests. Once she finds out that your frame is stronger than an oak, she will stop the tests and submit.
ATTRACTION-HIGH INTEREST-RESPECT=SUBMITTING
So how long does it take for a woman to submit? I think that if you are seeing someone once a week for the first 2-3 weeks and then move to seeing her twice a week after a month and go from there, it will take about 2-3 months before she truly submits. Be very leery of a woman that submits much sooner than this as she is desperate and there is an underlying reason for that. Why would a woman submit before she gets to know you? You have done nothing to deserve it and she is just wanting to cling onto anyone stable at that point. Not a good situation.
If you have been seeing someone consistently for 3-4 months and you are getting some disrespectful behavior, she is still texting other guys, etc., you need to eject and move on because she doesnt respect you enough or you are not high enough value for her to fully submit. She sees you as a stepping stone until she finds someone that is better.......not a good situation.
My take is 3-4 months is the max amount of time for a woman to submit (considering you are not seeing each other all the time in the beginning.......and why would you be if you have OPTIONS and an abundance mindset?). If it doesnt happen by then, you are spinning your wheels......and most likely putting up with disrespectful behavior from her.
A quick example- I have been dating a 31 yr old nurse practitioner for almost 3 months. She is super cool and we click really well together. Once we started talking there were really no shyte tests or anything else she was throwing out there testing me with (by product of a strong frame). Now I dont expect any woman in her right mind to submit to me in a really short amount of time because it shows she doesnt have any options and something must be wrong with her and at the 2 month mark her actions showed that she had very much submitted. Zero signs of disrespect since the beginning. If there would happen to be signs of disrespect that show up I would simply use silence and distance or walk away. I have too high standards for myself to put up with that, but typically disrespect shows up very early when a woman is not going to be submissive for whatever reason.
Work on yourself daily, increase your value and open new doors and expand the amount of women who are attracted to you and see you as high value. Make yourself the prize. Have options and an abundance mindset. Have high standards for how you allow people to treat you.
Just dont forget that a woman who doesnt submit in 2-4 months is leading you down a toxic road......if that is the case you need to work on your frame and eliminate any needy behavior.
Happy Hunting
