Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Subjects to build sexual tension

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Hi all,
When you're somewhere with a girl you want to talk about interesting subjects. Not silly things like school, work etc.

Your destiny with her is to get her laid, right? So you have to pick subjects that will build sexual tension and are just fun to talk about. Some peoples tell storys, other just joke arround. But: every technique will say: Have a repetoire with stories, discussion-subject etc. So my question:

Do you have a repetoire with stories?
If yes, wich?

Do you have a list of interesting subjects for a date?
If yes, wich?

On wich subjects do you bust her balls?

I think this is a important subject cuase we don't want to come accros as nerdy or something. If I am longer then 30 minutes alone with a girl, I find it hard to get the convo going (if that is necessary).

I hope on exhaustively answers.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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i think a good thing is not actually talking about sex itself, but talk about the feelings involved in detail, talk about how amazing eating something that you cooked was, and how it melted in your mouth, and the chicken was so soft and succulent, and the sauce was just heaven on your tongue.

she will be thinking about sex.


its all about similies.
 

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Jasonr, you are somebody who beleives in Speed Seduction, i think?
I've once read the ss-book and there was this kind of material: describing an experience in great details. Maybe I have to try this.

Personaly I do more like the cokcy and funny stuff.. but you have to get the convo going to bust her ballz on a funny way. Taht's why I asked this question.

Tanx for the info.
 

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Originally posted by smallgiant
Jasonr, you are somebody who beleives in Speed Seduction, i think?
I've once read the ss-book and there was this kind of material: describing an experience in great details. Maybe I have to try this.

Personaly I do more like the cokcy and funny stuff.. but you have to get the convo going to bust her ballz on a funny way. Taht's why I asked this question.

Tanx for the info.
to be honest, ive never really read up on speed seduction, i just talked to a few girls about it and a lot of them said blatantly talking about sex can make you seem a little needy (unless you're both a bit drunk, then by all means talk about sex) and that describing feelings related to sex in other objects they will start thinking about sex anyway.

I dont think i really believe speed seduction works as well as the few articles ive read claim, but i wouldnt mind reading up on it further and then testing it out, im up for anything new.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Prod and push a little bit. Some girls are more comfortable talking about s3x some aren't. Also timing is important too.

If you are unsure what type of girl she is then test her comfort levels and go slowly.

Yes as mentioned above if you are on an initial date date and you blatantly start talking about how you like to bang animals and describing how girls that don't have enemas before 4nal turn you off, then for most women that are just warming up to you, this can be a bit of a turnoff.....

Steer the conversation toward relationships, romance and sweet things. You need to change her state from mmm nice coffee to "lets get it on" by pacing and directing her mood.
i.e.
Ask her to recall the sweetest thing that her previous BF had done for her.
Ask her about a romantic moment.

Then escalate...
Ask if she remembers her first kiss.
Ask her if she likes to cuddle and the feelings involved describe it in detail as described by a previous poster.

Make sure that she is following you and you are directing her mood properly. Then escalate some more.
Describe how you like to nibble on ears etc etc

This is very brief but I'm sure you get the general idea.

Have a glance at the language used in Speed seduction, but don't get hung up on it.
 

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From what I recall, SS isn't about having game, it's about having a pattern. This is the one pure reason I never got into SS. It's like memorizing formulas instead of going with what's more natural in human communication.

Rely on body language. Women are much more sensitive and receptive to body language than men. You can have sex with a woman without discussing the subject.
 

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Even if you don't buy the concepts of Speed Seduction, the way language is used therein should not be disregarded. For those beginning down the path it does indeed involve memorising patterns etc. Again this is a learned skill like its origins, NLP and hypnotism.

But the usefulness of it that in terms of this problem is that it teaches you to be more descriptive in your language. So instead of saying "yeah I like to cuddle in front of the fire" you could say


mmmm, ever really relaxed, and warmed up with someone special.. in front of a soft glowing fire.. isn't it a wonderful feeling to hold someone close to you and sharing that, warmth on a cold day. Don't you like to wrap arms around that special someone, sharing that, mmmm so cozy moment....'


Ever get lost in a book, imagining the events in your head like the movie, get moved by it? Been descriptive helps you to speak more like a romance novel, if you are really skilled you can seduce a women with your words until she yearns to be touched by you.

I don't want to advertise SS because I'm not a hardcore proponent, but it did teach me to speak in a more attractive manner. i.e. slowing down, use of pauses, lowering my voice (My voice is naturally higher). People pay more attention because you stack it with the aggressive/dominant bodylanguage.

Use your head, pick out the ammo and leave the blanks.
 

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Originally posted by Kaine
Even if you don't buy the concepts of Speed Seduction, the way language is used therein should not be disregarded. For those beginning down the path it does indeed involve memorising patterns etc. Again this is a learned skill like its origins, NLP and hypnotism.

But the usefulness of it that in terms of this problem is that it teaches you to be more descriptive in your language. So instead of saying "yeah I like to cuddle in front of the fire" you could say


mmmm, ever really relaxed, and warmed up with someone special.. in front of a soft glowing fire.. isn't it a wonderful feeling to hold someone close to you and sharing that, warmth on a cold day. Don't you like to wrap arms around that special someone, sharing that, mmmm so cozy moment....'


Ever get lost in a book, imagining the events in your head like the movie, get moved by it? Been descriptive helps you to speak more like a romance novel, if you are really skilled you can seduce a women with your words until she yearns to be touched by you.

I don't want to advertise SS because I'm not a hardcore proponent, but it did teach me to speak in a more attractive manner. i.e. slowing down, use of pauses, lowering my voice (My voice is naturally higher). People pay more attention because you stack it with the aggressive/dominant bodylanguage.

Use your head, pick out the ammo and leave the blanks.

im reading thing stoned, and nothing has ever made as much sense as that.

i am going to read up on SS because i couldnt live with the fact that my english descriptions are poor, i would like to be able to convey myself better than currently do, and if getting girls is a side effect, its a nice one
 

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Yeah, I go to try to combine C&F and SS. So first you start to bust her ballz and joke about her insecurities.. and then when the 'relation' becomes more physical you can do the SS thing, isn't it?

But back to subject, where do you guys talk about, near SS-patterns?

- About your Dog:confused:
- About pron-movies:D (I think this is a really good one)
- Commun, give me some good stories to tell, or a link where to find good stories or something.
- I heard of mindgames, do you use them too?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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my feelings on SS are mixed... i've read a lot on it and there is SOME value in it, but really it ends up being a way to fake being the kind of guy a girl would fvck... a lot of thestuff on this board is "fake it til u make it" however. I find that most other things focus on the means to the end, which is what we SHOULD be focusing on i.e. become more humorous, become a little bit arrogant, work on your social skills... overall its about becoming a better person and in the end, that person will be more fun to be with and more likely to be able to KEEP a girl after a ONS. if your goal is simply as many ONS as possible with the least amount of work(which im sure is some of ur goals) then SS is for you. If you want to be able to find the best girl out there and keep her then just stick with the basics, go read the DJ bible, test things out, make yourself a better perso, everything will fall into place and you'll no longer have to work for girls, they will work for you - something SS will never accomplish.
 

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Originally posted by smallgiant

But back to subject, where do you guys talk about, near SS-patterns?

- About your Dog:confused:
- About pron-movies:D (I think this is a really good one)
- Commun, give me some good stories to tell, or a link where to find good stories or something.
- I heard of mindgames, do you use them too?

Talking about porn movies is IMO BS (suppose it was meant ironically...)

FOr instance talk about:
What type of guys she is interested and why? Get into details. Where does she go to meet guys? What hs been the best/worst pickup..? Tell her about your best/worst pickup and so on.

Talk about goals in life and make sure you can tell her your goals (most women love men who have definite ideas about their life. Even if you do not have them,make them up!!!! ).
 
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