Stubborn friends, anyone?

[Ojete]

Many times I have tried to help, encourage, give tips, show, etc. some of my friends when it comes to dealing with girls, be it approaching them, stop kissing their asses, not taking chances, etc. However, I always see the same pattern: no matter what, they 'revert' to their old ways of doing things.

When I say 'no matter what', I mean they've gone out with me, met girls, experienced more success when it came to closing, and taking initiative with them, and when their exes or other women in their lives have tried to **** with their situation, we have talked lots & lots about women and the whole thing. I have an older friend who knows all this **** through experience by himself and he has also given them support. Basically, they answer "wow man it was so easy!", or "I should have done that earlier" and **** like that, but then next week it seems like they forget what we have been talking and showing them in months and get their lives ****ed by some woman. Then, the cycle starts again. Has been happening with 5 friends so far.

So, for now, I say **** this friendly mates support line, they already know what do to, maybe they are looking for a quick fix and then like to be treated like ****.

Anyone in the same position who could give me some pointers? Thanks in advance

 

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You aren't going to get anywhere unless they are asking for help.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

By the way, why are you so impassioned to change them? Why not accept them for who they are? How do their action effect your life?