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as above this woman i met in a village the other night and she has texted me first always a good sign

However she has hit me with the struggles to get a babysitter line as family live a while away this could be fair enough however cant believe she doesnt know one person in the village to have her kid

her text game is good and courteous she asks questions back

i can usually cement dates fine this one would be an ideal plate living in a village a few miles away, you couldnt get a better scenario

ive gone low contact for now any pointers ?
 

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Professional babysitting service. Call her bluff.
 

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i was considering, was just checking it didnt look too pressurising, having to suggest i mean ffs lol
 

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You might just have to leave it. You're right, you shouldn't have to suggest it if she's really interested, but bear in mind she's probably nervous as a single mother, probably likely been burned in the past.

Send her the details of a professional service, saying you'd really like to take her out, but you'll leave the ball in her court. Then literally leave it up to her. Don't really see another option at the moment.
 

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Update: said ill call her tomorrow night be good to arrange meeting up and its better done over the phone (so far all done on my terms with me leading i believe)

and shes replied "ok that would be great"


but bear in mind she's probably nervous as a single mother, probably likely been burned in the past
as youve stated perhaps the guard just needs to be brought down slowly...just spannered me with her messaging me first, then struggling to cement anything even after rapport

Just goes to show vanishing for 48-72 hours AND NOT BEING THE EMOTIONAL TAMPON .......works wonders
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

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Thanks to SS I quit dating MILFs a couple yrs back. It's never really worth it, OK I just lied there were a couple that were a lot of fun. But I did live a large metroplex so it was easier to find chicks without kids.

For real tho drop all expectation's as they can be extreme pains in the asses. If you are frustrated now believe me you will probably continue to be.

The only "pro" vs con is they are always busy with kid sh*t BUT that makes it easier to spin other plates or focus on your own sh*t. Other than that yeah definitely keep with the low contact, you'll find out sooner than later if she's an attention wh*re as far as texting goes.
 

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every single one of them is not use to the SS way of things cause as soon as im out the text convo within 5 or 6 messages there like "OH OK....OH RIGHT BYE! x lol
 

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But I did live a large metroplex so it was easier to find chicks without kids.
we live in towns and villages more than Cities in the UK so if you can find a bird 5 miles down the lanes in a village from your town....then like we say it would be ideal

you'll find out sooner than later if she's an attention wh*re as far as texting goes.
i trust you mean the basic wont cement a date but will happily text all day BS?
 

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we live in towns and villages more than Cities in the UK so if you can find a bird 5 miles down the lanes in a village from your town....then like we say it would be ideal
Oh yeah I hear ya, I'm from "New" England which is built similarly from my understand ing. But yes proximity is ALWAYS the key.

i trust you mean the basic wont cement a date but will happily text all day BS?
Exactly, I've laughed at a couple of them. I'm at WORK, I don't have time for that shït.
 

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If you're going to date a single mom, you're going to come over, do nothing until the kid falls asleep, then fvck and leave. That will be your dating life. It's not that exciting, but on the bright side it's not expensive, either.
 

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