“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Strong IOI's then flakey!

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So after laying the groundwork while she was with somebody the cute barmaid at my local became single. About the same time I hired one of her friends to work for me part time. Suddenly I started getting more and more IOI's. She would greet/call me by name, say goodbye when I left the bar, crossed the street to talk to me etc. This culminated in us bumping into each other on the street late one night while I was watching a meteor shower. She stayed with me to watch and i lent her a jumper to keep her warm. We sat on the hod of my car for about 20 minutes and chatted.

I told her I had better get to bed and the star show wasn't all that had been promised! As she went to leave i said to her "lets go out sometime, give me your number". She then gave me her number. I as away the rest of the week on business so I sent her a text saying we should meet up when she gets back from her holiday that she also left for that week. She said she didn't know her work schedule for after her holiday and she would let me know when she got back.

Fast forward two weeks and shes back so I call her, she answers and we chat a bit about her holiday then i pitch her again on coming out. She says that she didn't get her schedule yet because she was so busy during her first shift. She says she will get it that day (this was yesterday) and let me know.

NOTHING.

i walk into the bar where she works today (I often work in there during the daytime) and she is there, when I come to the bar t get served she is sheepish with me but I talk to her like normal and she asks me a couple of questions back.

Ive got big DHV with this girl as I am one of the only successful young guys in this small town. Shes 6 years younger than me.

Feeling pretty lost about the whole thing now....tempted to bring a hot friend in one night to make her jealous or something. I will see her again at the bar this week most likely, completely stumped as to how to play it.

My other option is to belittle her and say "awww you looked so sheepish at the bar today, its ok to say no if you dont want to hang out, dont worry about it im a grown man, but dont get weird!" and maybe that will flush out an answer either way
 

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Your first reaction was the right one. Just talk to her like normal if you ever find yourself in the same room with her. Bringing in the hot friend is a bit too highschool, and belittling someone rarely gets a good response unless you've got a good connection and they know they're expected to fire it back at you.

I wouldn't ask her out again, or even ask about her schedule though. She knows that you want to take her out, and she knows you're waiting to hear about her schedule. If she's not forthcoming on these, then she's probably not interested.

But who knows, maybe the friend that you've hired has said she's interested and told the barmaid to back off? :)
 

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randd said:
Feeling pretty lost about the whole thing now....tempted to bring a hot friend in one night to make her jealous or something. I will see her again at the bar this week most likely, completely stumped as to how to play it.

My other option is to belittle her and say "awww you looked so sheepish at the bar today, its ok to say no if you dont want to hang out, dont worry about it im a grown man, but dont get weird!" and maybe that will flush out an answer either way

I wouldn't do either of those things. She's just some girl that you like. Nobody important. Definitely not worth the effort of attempting to make her jealous. For all you know, she doesn't like you anyway, and won't get jealous no matter what you do.

And for your second idea....you NEVER want to acknowledge that she's rejecting you. That benefits you in no way whatsoever.

The best thing you did was go into that bar and chat with her like nothing happened. And that's all you need to do in the future. The best revenge is not caring.
 

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Ball is definitely in her court now. I'd subtly scale back the attention and see if she reaches out.
Just walk in and say hi and keep walking. Be courteous and friendly but not overly so.
 

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randd said:
So after laying the groundwork while she was with somebody the cute barmaid at my local became single. About the same time I hired one of her friends to work for me part time. Suddenly I started getting more and more IOI's. She would greet/call me by name, say goodbye when I left the bar, crossed the street to talk to me etc. This culminated in us bumping into each other on the street late one night while I was watching a meteor shower. She stayed with me to watch and i lent her a jumper to keep her warm. We sat on the hod of my car for about 20 minutes and chatted.

I told her I had better get to bed and the star show wasn't all that had been promised! As she went to leave i said to her "lets go out sometime, give me your number". She then gave me her number. I as away the rest of the week on business so I sent her a text saying we should meet up when she gets back from her holiday that she also left for that week. She said she didn't know her work schedule for after her holiday and she would let me know when she got back.

Fast forward two weeks and shes back so I call her, she answers and we chat a bit about her holiday then i pitch her again on coming out. She says that she didn't get her schedule yet because she was so busy during her first shift. She says she will get it that day (this was yesterday) and let me know.

NOTHING.

i walk into the bar where she works today (I often work in there during the daytime) and she is there, when I come to the bar t get served she is sheepish with me but I talk to her like normal and she asks me a couple of questions back.

Ive got big DHV with this girl as I am one of the only successful young guys in this small town. Shes 6 years younger than me.

Feeling pretty lost about the whole thing now....tempted to bring a hot friend in one night to make her jealous or something. I will see her again at the bar this week most likely, completely stumped as to how to play it.

My other option is to belittle her and say "awww you looked so sheepish at the bar today, its ok to say no if you dont want to hang out, dont worry about it im a grown man, but dont get weird!" and maybe that will flush out an answer either way

You should have pulled the trigger when on the hood of your car and kissed her and then f closed..you waited too long IMO.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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IOI's don't mean sh*t. Your princess is in another castle, mainly because you didn't make a move during the shower. Judge by actions, and these actions lead to the corner of Hurt Feelings Blvd. and Uninterested Ave. That's my ruling.

Case closed.
 
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I appreciate I made some mistakes, any more ideas on how to keep the ball in the air?
 

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randd said:
I appreciate I made some mistakes, any more ideas on how to keep the ball in the air?
After she flaked on your first attempt at asking her out? I mean....not really. That's usually a bad sign.

If you want to push the issue, then just ask her out again. But if you get the same results, then just be cool about it. You gotta remember - getting angry about some girl not going out with you serves no purpose.
 
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