"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Strong advice from a trusted female coworker

Lars Porsenna

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Got this from RKTek (where are you dude?)
I think it is gold so bringing it up again.

All this from a great conversation with a female coworker this past weekend:

There are women out there who will suck the life out of you.
When you first meet a woman, no matter how excited she is or makes you feel, you should have NO EXPECTATIONS!
Some women, even some beautiful women, deeply hate men yet want to be around them.
The women who hate men really hate one particular man.
Some women thrive on drama, are happiest when things are in turmoil and may only like having you around because you´re easy prey for her turmoil.
A man can be seen as charming or stupidly gullible depending on how she feels about him.

The first time a woman sees you, she will see your look, your body shape, your body posture, how you carry yourself, how you use your eyes, how you move your hands, whether your voice is baritone or tenor, whether your hair and clothing style is dated, GQ, or playa. She will look at your skin texture, hair grooming; everything and make a snap judgement very quickly. She may amend and upgrade her opinion or downgrade it as she talks to you and sizes you up but her initial reaction good or bad will always have a strong impact on her future thinking.

She will also subconsciously sense things about you and you cant predict or change these feelings either way. You may happily resemble Tom Cruise but so did the last guy who broke her heart. You may resemble Danny DeVito but so did the guy she loved and deeply misses from junior high school.

Girls are much more calculating and practical-minded when it comes to men, how to use them and how to get things from them. She may be warm and deeply romantic over you but she also knows the exact reason why shes interested in you, stays with you and what she will and will not do in the relationship with you. She may date you, she may kiss you, she may sleep with you and even be in a long-term relationship but her reasons for deciding to do each step are deeply complicated and known only to her. Her reasons for dating a specific man can be extremely shrewd and he´d be shocked if he could read her mind.

A man can only hope that the reasons she´s with him are because of the person he IS, and not a prototype for her to change. ALL women want the bigger better deal (BBD). If she loves you for what you might become, then she´s also got a timeline. It might be 10 days, 10 months or 10 years and if you give a hint your´e not living up to her pre-planned expectations, you´re history. If at any point along the way, if she thinks she can get just as much out of life without you, goodbye honey.

Most women view even the most romantic relationships as business arrangements.

If all her friends are in relationships and she´s feeling left out and you just happened along at the right time, or her biological clock is ticking loudly: either way, you´re not Mr. Right, you´re Mr. Right Now. And just as fast as you´re in, you can be out.

Girls may seem all emotional and flaky, but they´re not. Girls usually know EXACTLY why they´re doing something, or staying with one man over another. Plus, having a reputation as being emotional and flaky also helps you to get out of bad situations without having to explain yourself.

All women know that a smile can be used to get things.

Most women are drawn to romance to make them forget how sinister they are--and the women who most crave strong displays of romance are the MOST sinister.

Ask her if she won the lottery what she´d do with the money. If the first words out of her mouth are shopping sprees, expensive cars, exotic vacations, beware. It gives a good idea of what she truly wants out of life, and more than likely she will be expecting to get from you.

Women in the У9-10Ф range have been brainwashed since they were young by well-meaning family members and friends. If a girl is cute as a little girl, she is more likely to constantly hear: you´re so cute, the boys will be chasing you! These women end up expecting more from life than any one man could possibly provide.

There are women out there who love men, who want to be with men in long term relationships and who are pure and honest. More than likely they will be in the 6-7-8 range. 5 and below have a higher risk of feeling shortchanged and bitter. 9 and above have a higher risk of being vain and impossible to please.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Rata Blanca

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Good advice.
 
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Its a good thing chicks are hot, because think about it their complicated, frustrating, and hard to fully understand.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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What, she told you all that in one sitting?
 

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wayword said:
Wow, this needs to be in the Bible.

This woman deserves a gold star for her honesty and insight.

Too bad she doesn't post here!
Kudos to RKTek for getting that stuff out of her.. Too bad the left the site in 2004, it seems...

Anybody care to discuss this stuff? Would be interesting

Somewhat on a tangent... "Most women are drawn to romance to make them forget how sinister they are--and the women who most crave strong displays of romance are the MOST sinister." This reminded me of a Nietzsche sentence I read yesterday, "Man is afraid of woman when she hates, for man deep in his soul is only bad, while woman in her soul is evil".

("Der Mann fürchte sich vor dem Weibe, wenn es haßt; denn der Mann ist im Grunde der Seele nur böse, das Weib aber ist dort schlecht." )

As always with Nietzsche, good for lasting nightmares, but not far from the truth, to say the least..
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yes. I tell friends: unless you have put your diick in her vaggina then nothing has really happened. It's all virtual, hypothetical, day dreamy, "maybe she will maybe she won't" speculation.
 

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mm..quite true
 
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