"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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SmoothTalker

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I'm wondering if any of you guys have thoughs/suggestions on how to pull this off without coming off as creepy.

The situation is that I got out of an LTR not too long ago and am currently playing the field. This is going alright I suppose, though since I am currently doing an internship at a very high tech company, anybody that has ever worked in technical jobs probably knows attractive girls are very rare indeed. Still, I do what I can. However to help expand my horizons a bit I made an online dating profile which has been getting pretty good responses so far. However one girl I noticed on that site ( I only look at local chicks, not going to do anything long distance) was a hotty that went to my high school. I never had a crush on her or anything, and had completely forgotten about her until I saw her profile there. Now, I'd be interested in getting to know her better, but the problem is she has for whatever reason abandoned that site ( last login over 3 months ago) and I never bump into her in person as it's not a small town. She is on Facebook and we do have some mutual friends, but we were not friends in high school, so I wouldn't really have any reason to add her.

Basically, what's the best way to make contact without coming off as creepy. Obviously "I was looking through Facebook and you looked hot" doesn't work on too many girls, and while I don't care too much if anything happens with her, I don't want to completely ruin it either.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Unbridled_Phoenix

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You got out of an LTR huh?

"Not too long ago"?

Why are you making such effort to meet women in this time? Check yourself, if you are feeling needy and like you need a mommy, you have much work to do before you should be dating women.

This is a GREAT time for self-improvement and discovery. Actively seek to make yourself smarter and wiser and stronger. Work out, read self-improvement books, take charge of your life.

Sure, it's also a great time to go out to bars and hookup with chicks at parties...

...but making all this effort to meet women on the internet and fretting about some bird from high school is indicative that your mind is not in the right place...

...you need to evaluate your priorities, and having recently gotten out of an LTR, they may be skewed towards chasing validation and redemption in women. The classic recipe for disaster, AFC relapses, and worst of all: WASTED TIME. Women come and women go, but your TIME only goes.
 

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Just a bit of knowledge here. I personally don't do it, but people always add a lot of people that they graduated high school with. It's very common. Even if they were not friends. As long as she knew you actually existed, then I don't see a big problem adding her.

Then, just simply drop a "hey, how've you been since high school?" or whatever you choose to say. Then go from there.
 

SmoothTalker

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Unbridled phoenix, thanks for the tip..

However, not too long ago is 3+ months now. Also, I am doing all of the self improvement stuff, never stopped even while in the LTR because I do it for me, but I've definitely picked up the pace a bit since then.

And as I mentioned I am working on multiple girls, not obsessing over some one chick on the internet. However I feel more is better, and it's not exactly going to be a large effort on my part, so why not?
 

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women are a dime a dozen. I go through them like crazy. Every once in a while I find a keeper. I just got rid of one I'd been seeing for a year, got another I see now and then, and so on but for the most part I see them while it's fun then I split. As far a random women, I just greet and see what happens but I dont worry about them at all. I dont use fb but if I did I'd have no problem adding and trying to get in the pants of any woman on the thing whether it's "creepy" or not doesn't matter... they wanna get ****ed and I wanna do the ****ing, if they can't handle that I basically tell them to piss off and move on to the next. A little class is needed as far as the entry into the situation much of the time but that's basically what I'm thinking going into these situations.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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