Straight Up Approach

[KingKongBallz]

I manage to get about 2-3 dates a week and my conversion ration is usually about 50%...sometimes it's like a 70% ratio.

I usually try to apply my particular approach on girls i've made EC with but I've made it work by just stepping up (beside) a woman and then allowing her to notice me (they are usually surprized that I've somewhat invaded their personal space)...never too close however...just close enough so that they can sense you...a meter's distance usually works...

I just step up to the girl and ask them out i.e 'Heh, I think we should go out sometime"...and then take it from there...

Most girls will laugh and make a comment :

1) oh...that pretty forward (and then I get into how I'm not the kind of guy to use gimmicks and beat around the bush)...

2)But I don't even know you (to which i reply something along the lines of, well that's the point, that's why I'm giving you the chance)

3)oh really, why do you think that? (to which I respond something along the lines of "cuz i think we'd have a good time)...

4)and some even respond 'humm, what did you have in mind or even, oh really, when? (to which i respond 'i was thinking right now)... They are usually suprized by that response...they feel like they can't get out of it but they usually love being presented with the opportunity....some say yes and other say they can't right now...If they say they can't at that moment (oh, the conservative type, or I guess your not the adventurous type...(they mostly defend their adventuristic side and suggest a better time)... such as 'maybe on the weekend/thurs/etc...(whatever day they give me I usually say I'm busy on that day)....and then I counter with (how about tonight then)....and then they usually agree....

There are so many ways to make a straight up approach work....no gimmicks (at least that's what I tell em even though this is a pretty big gimmick) but at least I'm not wasting my time and they seem to like that...

Trust me...I never get a bad experience with that line... the worst i've heard is 'I have a bf'...and then I can usually counter that by telling them something along the lines of 'well, we all know that nothing lasts forever so I'll give you a raincheck and you save it for a rainy day"...the girls always laugh and say something along the lines of ..."I'll keep it in mind...or ...Thanks!" Then I exit... sometimes i see them again and get them to go out (after they've spent time with their boring Boyfriends and remember the dude that presented them with an opportunity...a branch to swing to)

THat's the gist of it...i can give further detail if i've missed a link in the chain or ppl don't understand..

I think a part of it is that I'm a tall and pretty good looking cat, but I don't think that's what's getting em...I think it's the directness... I think it's refreshing for the ladies to have a man step to them directly without them having to wonder what's up his sleave.

Personally, I think women start getting worried when you take to long to get to the point...they already know what your punch line is gonna be so why not just start off with it?

Any other guys out there using this technique? I'd like to some feeback, perhaps swap strategies... What I'm trying to figure out is if it's the boldness of the approach that is working or something else... It's like i've discovered they key and I want to share and also hear from other guys just stepping up and getting to the point...

I think guys are making things too complex... Just ask her out and she will be happy...if she doesn't agree at that moment she at least has you in mind for the future...

 

[Charm]

I really like your direct bold approach as well as your "Hey im the prize" answers to their sh1t tests. It sounds to me like you are doing well for yourself already. Are you looking for help in one specific area of your game that might benefit you most?

 

[KingKongBallz]

I really like your direct bold approach as well as your "Hey im the prize" answers to their sh1t tests. It sounds to me like you are doing well for yourself already. Are you looking for help in one specific area of your game that might benefit you most?

I'm just wanting to know if it's the boldness or the actual line? Would it work if I stepped up to the girl and said "Heh, I want you"... I want feedback on whether you guyz think its the boldness of the action or the opening line i.e (telling a woman straight up what i want from her) rather than beating around the bush that is getting me these great results...

Once I go out with them it's usually money in the bank... I bang the girls within 10 hours of meeting them... It's something I read from Mystery i.e he says that you only need to invest about 7-10 hours to lay a chick... So far so good...2-3 dates and I'm in there.
Never banged one after the first date however...maybe I need one extra tip to convert on the same night.

 

[seth]

I have a few questions:
-where do you approach them?
-are they alone?
-what if they are going someplace, like opposite direction to you?
-you say you make your pressence felt before hand, this is very important I think. You just casualy get near them or you do it purposely, with eye contact? I mean do you get there sneaking or up front?

Thanks.

 

[KingKongBallz]

I have a few questions:
-where do you approach them?
-are they alone?
-what if they are going someplace, like opposite direction to you?
-you say you make your pressence felt before hand, this is very important I think. You just casualy get near them or you do it purposely, with eye contact? I mean do you get there sneaking or up front?

Thanks.

I try to approach the girls when they are alone. At places like a bus stop, a book store, sitting on a park bench (I live near the beach)... I haven't really thought about it but I guess I try to find stationary girls that are alone. I've never approached a crowd of girls with that line because I can't really pull her from her friends and get her to go out with me right there and then...

NEVER TRY THIS ON GIRLS THAT ARE WALKING BY...they must be stationary.

As for making them feel my presence...Ideally I try to make eye contact first and if the EC is good, then I just step up without the 'presence' factor... The stepping up beside them is usually reserved for situations where there has been no EC established (like when they have there head buried in some romance novel)... I casually step beside them but with the intention of them knowing it (and they know it because I stand on the very edge of their personal space bubble)...a few steps closer and they would be uncomfortable...so they are forced to look by nature, it's a gut level reaction...and then I hit them...

 

[ER!C L!VE]

Never banged one after the first date however...maybe I need one extra tip to convert on the same night.

Run me through a typical first date starting from the time you get her number to the end of the first date and I'll try to help. :cheer: