Straight men don't want to have sex anymore

[BadBoy89]

the reason straight men have lost interest is that modern women are turning them off by not being “feminine” and “submissive” enough. To which I say: grow up.

OK, so you are saying straight men should want to have sex with modern women who are somewhat "masculine" and "domineering"

I will agree.

As long as straight women want to have sex with modern men who are somewhat feminine and submissive.

 

[BaronOfHair]

We already know the answer of course. I think men typically will put up with a lot and still be ready to have sex. For men to get to a point where they’d rather not deal with the women and bypass sex altogether than put up with her bulls1t tells you all you need to know about their attitudes and how big a pain in the ass they are.

Strangely and tragically, it really seemed we were getting past all this, in the years between roughly '94-the mid 10s https://www.the-independent.com/art...-t-like-me-and-i-don-t-like-them-8076611.html Note the dateline on that article, and the following quote:

"But the feminist culture-wars were at their height at that time," she says. "A lot of that's completely gone now. Some of the principal antagonists are dead, like Andrea Dworkin. Basically, what happened is that my side won that war. The younger women of the Nineties rose up and embraced this. I," she says, with a sudden spurt of generosity, "credit Madonna. For decades, feminism had rejected Hollywood, sex symbols and fashion magazines and so on. Younger women have no problem in reconciling beauty with ambitions as a professional woman."

This, I'm relieved to say, since I don't want to be "hostile", is true. The feminism that Paglia represented, and which caused such rows with Andrea Dworkin, Kate Millet, Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem, has won. Nobody now thinks a woman has to wear dungarees and flash armpits that make her look like a gorilla. Quite a few people seem to think women should have no body hair at all. And quite a few seem to think they should have nice plastic breasts to go with their very high heels"

The world we've inhabited since late '16-today might as well be a different PLANET than the one we were living in, as recently as 2012

 

[Barrister]

Strangely and tragically, it really seemed we were getting past all this, in the years between roughly '94-the mid 10s https://www.the-independent.com/art...-t-like-me-and-i-don-t-like-them-8076611.html Note the dateline on that article, and the following quote:

"But the feminist culture-wars were at their height at that time," she says. "A lot of that's completely gone now. Some of the principal antagonists are dead, like Andrea Dworkin. Basically, what happened is that my side won that war. The younger women of the Nineties rose up and embraced this. I," she says, with a sudden spurt of generosity, "credit Madonna. For decades, feminism had rejected Hollywood, sex symbols and fashion magazines and so on. Younger women have no problem in reconciling beauty with ambitions as a professional woman."

This, I'm relieved to say, since I don't want to be "hostile", is true. The feminism that Paglia represented, and which caused such rows with Andrea Dworkin, Kate Millet, Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem, has won. Nobody now thinks a woman has to wear dungarees and flash armpits that make her look like a gorilla. Quite a few people seem to think women should have no body hair at all. And quite a few seem to think they should have nice plastic breasts to go with their very high heels"

The world we've inhabited since late '16-today might as well be a different PLANET than the one we were living in, as recently as 2012

I think it’s a different brand of feminism than the 1970s/1980s where women aren’t so much embracing looking like hippy freaks with hairy armpits but instead just view themselves as a princess that shouldn’t have to work/earn anything and the man is basically a slave and should count himself lucky to talk to her. Any effort to push back on the woman having pure freedom to treat him like dog sh1t means he’s “controlling” and “won’t let her be herself.” It’s ultimately a symptom of our woke culture we all live in now.

I do think there has been a slight swing back in the right direction the last couple of years. Some of the “toxic masculinity” nonsense has rightfully been called out. Still a very long way to go though.

 

[Hal9000]

Life's too short to deal with crazy irrational women who bring little of value to the relationship and pretty much every study out there tells us that women are more mentally unstable than ever so there you go. Add in you're gonna have to deal with her spending half her life staring at her phone (which applies to pretty much every female these days) and you aren't painting a very appealing picture for a guy to take on almost 100% of the financial risk that comes with possibly marrying someone these days. You're better off just sexing up the cute but probably crazy ones and not worrying too much about a real relationship. An additional chasm has also recently developed where a good chunk of women these days are insufferable leftists who expect you to be as well, and who wants to date anyone who wraps up their entire self identity in political terms? Certainly not most men.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I think it’s a different brand of feminism than the 1970s/1980s...

Things like MeToo and our collective obsession with rape that've characterized the past decade are a reboot of the sort of insanity that characterized The Women's Movement of The 70s. Arm pit hair made something of a re-appearance, and fads like free bleeding plumbed depths previously unimagined

Insofar as a possible "shift in the right direction goes"... We've got a ways to go before we're out of the woods

23:33-27:04

"The Woke" have been exercising an increasingly powerful influence over most our major institutions for the past few decades, and it's going to take decades to dig these fu-kwads out. Hell, "victory" may never really be complete, so much as the problem becomes less of a hassle