"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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straight from a woman's mouth....being overly nice is a turn off

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here is a post by a woman from another message board....

Mr Braces has offered to help me with my car (I had to take it into service today) and I told him it would be way too much trouble for him and far out of his way. "No trouble at all" he said though of course I made previous arrangements to take care of it myself. He's like this about a lot of things though. A gentleman to a T. Some of you may remember him taking my gum for me before dinner, pushing in the chair, opening the door (from behind me so I walk in first), paying for everything, and always making sure I'm comfortable.

I am enjoying it very much. I know that I love the whole, opening doors, pushing in chair stuff.. its all very romantic.

But I wonder why him offering to help me out with the car is such a bother. Not that its literally a bother - but I can sense that it turns me off a little bit.

Why does that turn us off?

How many times in the past have I wished that a boyfriend at the time could help me with something but didn't? How many times have I cursed myself for not having someone dependable in my life. Someone as dependable and helpable as I am to others.

So while its a little bit of a turn off, and Im not even sure why, I am totally going to turn that energy around and try to appreciate that here is a guy whos willing to put himself out there for me possibly more so than most guys have in the past. I like it. And I want to like him.

But why again do favors like this turn women off? - Generally speaking. (And Im only using my case scenario for an example)
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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librito

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good post future DJ..
it reminds as that good guys and even gentlemen always finish last.
 

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librito said:
good post future DJ..
it reminds as that good guys and even gentlemen always finish last.
:eek:

Good guys finish last!? No that's not right... Doormats finish last.

He didn't turn her off because he was treating her well, he turned her off because he went too far. She started to feel that he was kissing her @ss. He was being a doormat. Just because you'd be willing to eat 100 yards of a girls sh!t just to see where it came from doesn't mean you're a good guy.

Good guys never finish last.
 

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Same with women who kiss ass. If a girl start letting you have your way with everything even sex. You lose attarction to her because you respect her less.

In the end being too nice just makes people respect you less. :nono:
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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BrotherAP said:
:eek:

Good guys finish last!? No that's not right... Doormats finish last.

He didn't turn her off because he was treating her well, he turned her off because he went too far. She started to feel that he was kissing her @ss. He was being a doormat. Just because you'd be willing to eat 100 yards of a girls sh!t just to see where it came from doesn't mean you're a good guy.

Good guys never finish last.

right on Brother AP...
I treat my fiance like a queen...

when guys realize what this is all about it will all come together for them
 
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