"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Deadly_Ripped

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Hey guys, please help me figure out what's up with this girl!

Met a girl through work. Different division - hooked up at work function. No one knows about it except us, but people suspect something.

We've been dating for ~2 months and we're seeing each other more frequently, although we haven't had an serious conversations (and I don't plan on it for a little while either, even though I really like this girl).

So yesterday we were hanging out and she picks up her phone and is like "why does this guy keep calling me." I didn't even say anything, and she explains that he's an old friend from college who she thinks is gay but doesn't actually know. Then she complains that he never leaves a message - he only calls and if she doesn't pick up then he hangs up.

She then tells me this big long story about him and how he disappeared for a few years and how he's now in town and she met him randomly on the street very recently. She then gives me this big long story about why she thinks he's gay even though I didn't ask.

All I said in reply was "well you've done a good job of convincing me that some stranger is probably gay" and left it that that.

Why did she go through so much trouble to tell me about some guy from her past who keeps calling her, and then go through the trouble to tell me that she "thinks" that he's gay? How would you have responded to the situation?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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PrettyBoyAJ

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Because she doesn't want you to think that this guy is actually trying to talk to her.

This could be good or bad.

I'm leaning towards the bad because guys don't actually call a lot if a girl doesn't pick up her phone. Best believe if you weren't there then she would have picked it up.
 

sinnerman

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if your guts say somethings fishy then something probably is fishy. is her behaviour towards you different ? never trust a chic blindly especially when she's trying too hard.
 

LinkinParkROX

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Dude who gives a crap? It's about some guy she thinks is gay. Wow. Does that stop you two from banging like animals? No? Then it's irrelevant. Continue your conquest with this woman. Simple as that.
 

sexysuave

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Yeah, most likely she doesn't want you to "worry" about it so she is telling you "I think he is gay". I have heard this a few times when some guys that girls were (hopefully) uninterested in either talk or try to talk to a girl and usually the "I think he is gay" speech is supposed to make you feel better and at easy and say "hey, I'm NOT interested in this guy".

I agree with the poster above me, you SHOULD NOT care right now, and should just keep banging her. Also, as someone else said, you have to trust your instincts, but sometimes they can be wrong. Since you and this chick are just casually dating, I think you should leave it at that and try not to overanalyze it. If this is bugging you so much, you might want to consider stopping to date this girl as you really don't want some girl messing you up at your work. Trust me, it's never good news. I have met chicks at work that I thought "man, she is REALLYYYYY cool, but later on it wears of and you realize she is just another girl, that you now have to WORK with and hope that she doesn't spread stories around you, and that she doesn't impact your future promotions at work lol.

Your best bet is to just be f**k buddies with this chick and NOT see her more than once a week at max, and do NOT talk to her on everyday basis. I've seen way too many guys get messed up with girls from work and even lose their jobs and their reputations at work, especially if you have an important job. It's just not worth it man. You are getting too attached.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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