Don Juan Prototype
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great post..i definitely need to apply this to my own life.. thumbs up
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Stop Watching Life, Start Living It.
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Duamutef
Banned
Lovely post, Shezzler. Thumbs up!
What if she does not give me her number then? I turn back to this forum and search for another of your deep and inspiring posts about not indulging to desperation?
Nobody of us will get what he's looking for. Slowly and painfully, maybe without even noticing it, we're all bound to mediocrity.
We're just lying our way out of desperation. I'm so tired of faking charme and confidence. I would like to be loved and cherished for the person I am, not the stereotyped, fake, dull Alpha-male I learned to be by reading all this propaganda.
The truth is that we're all shallow beings. Girls and boys are quite the same about this. Love, affection and sex are not connected with intelligence or wit, neither with ****y and funny sarcarm nor with framing. It's just an instinct, which nobody can control. This is why you cannot force nobody to love you.
I'm not saying that your post is useless Shezzler, but I'm sick and tired of all this synthetic optimism. Who said universe should be fair?
...maybe I'm a bit depressed today. It's safe to stop here. I don't wanna start flame-wars or such things.
Sarge on... (which means stopping people by the street and ask their number after a minute? Frenetic, shallow and useless world we live in...)
What if she does not give me her number then? I turn back to this forum and search for another of your deep and inspiring posts about not indulging to desperation?
Nobody of us will get what he's looking for. Slowly and painfully, maybe without even noticing it, we're all bound to mediocrity.
We're just lying our way out of desperation. I'm so tired of faking charme and confidence. I would like to be loved and cherished for the person I am, not the stereotyped, fake, dull Alpha-male I learned to be by reading all this propaganda.
The truth is that we're all shallow beings. Girls and boys are quite the same about this. Love, affection and sex are not connected with intelligence or wit, neither with ****y and funny sarcarm nor with framing. It's just an instinct, which nobody can control. This is why you cannot force nobody to love you.
I'm not saying that your post is useless Shezzler, but I'm sick and tired of all this synthetic optimism. Who said universe should be fair?
...maybe I'm a bit depressed today. It's safe to stop here. I don't wanna start flame-wars or such things.
Sarge on... (which means stopping people by the street and ask their number after a minute? Frenetic, shallow and useless world we live in...)
Duamutef
Banned
You're quite right Shezzler... but I'm so tired, I've been getting so many rejections lately. And you know what bothers me more. It's not the rejection in itself, but the immense burden of ipocrisy that comes with it.
"I'm just having a bad time, I cannot have a boyfriend..."
"I'm a lesbian..."
"You're not my type..."
"What the fvck did you just say?"
...I know that, by process of elimination, I'll find someone, but when we get something after such a long streak of failures, we're going to never be able to accept to lose it when it will be the time... I don't know if you can understand this. I'm just tired of all this game - it's too difficult, why is it so easy for someone that is so shallow and it's so hard for someone as intelligent, deep and profound about myself?
You're right indeed, Shezzler, so right it hurts, but I'm just tired today. I hope you all can cope with that. I like to consider you as friends. I rely on friends when I'm feeling bad. So please don't be mad at my random rants.
And no, I haven't got low self-esteem. My looks are not bad (4.3 on Hotornot, I must be pretty hot!
), I speak five foreign languages, can discuss any issue you can imagine without problems, and I'm going to be an aerospace engineer in about six months... I'm the best a girl could desire, I think. That's not self-esteem. It's that I don't have the utter esteem in all this seduction thing. We're making an intellectual war out of an elementary thing. Our culture ruined much of this.
By the way...
Oh yeah, sarge on... :woo:
"I'm just having a bad time, I cannot have a boyfriend..."
"I'm a lesbian..."
"You're not my type..."
"What the fvck did you just say?"
...I know that, by process of elimination, I'll find someone, but when we get something after such a long streak of failures, we're going to never be able to accept to lose it when it will be the time... I don't know if you can understand this. I'm just tired of all this game - it's too difficult, why is it so easy for someone that is so shallow and it's so hard for someone as intelligent, deep and profound about myself?
You're right indeed, Shezzler, so right it hurts, but I'm just tired today. I hope you all can cope with that. I like to consider you as friends. I rely on friends when I'm feeling bad. So please don't be mad at my random rants.
And no, I haven't got low self-esteem. My looks are not bad (4.3 on Hotornot, I must be pretty hot!
), I speak five foreign languages, can discuss any issue you can imagine without problems, and I'm going to be an aerospace engineer in about six months... I'm the best a girl could desire, I think. That's not self-esteem. It's that I don't have the utter esteem in all this seduction thing. We're making an intellectual war out of an elementary thing. Our culture ruined much of this.By the way...
Oh yeah, sarge on... :woo:
Good post and a wake up call for some, I hope.
Couple inspiring quotes:
"Don't be too timid and squeamish about your actions. All life is an experiment. The more experiments you make the better." -Emerson
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." T. Roosevelt
Couple inspiring quotes:
"Don't be too timid and squeamish about your actions. All life is an experiment. The more experiments you make the better." -Emerson
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." T. Roosevelt
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
DoubleJuan
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nice man........however
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it'S not that easy....i like pook's quote better *it's failure when you havent gotten what you desire, AFTER you have it then it will be feedback/experience" well not the exact quote because of the grammar but the message is the same (i hope so
)DoubleJuan
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yeah man i agree fully LOGICALLY. however, if you never had the success you want then it AIN'T that easy EMOTIONALLY.
Jerry Maguire
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The_Shezzler,
I have to say, my thoughts at the moment are along the same lines as Duamutef's (almost exactly) whereas I'm not being rejected, I'm just never trying.
I'd really love to hear from you what encouraged you to motivate yourself to change from a shy person (am I correct in saying this?) to a free, outgoing person. What went through your mind that made you change yourself, what images did you have in your mind when you changed, what were they like? How did you force yourself to overcome that first hurdle?
I have great plans for my life, it's just taking action on my goals and believing that they'll bring me happiness that's the problem.
I have to say, my thoughts at the moment are along the same lines as Duamutef's (almost exactly) whereas I'm not being rejected, I'm just never trying.
I'd really love to hear from you what encouraged you to motivate yourself to change from a shy person (am I correct in saying this?) to a free, outgoing person. What went through your mind that made you change yourself, what images did you have in your mind when you changed, what were they like? How did you force yourself to overcome that first hurdle?
I have great plans for my life, it's just taking action on my goals and believing that they'll bring me happiness that's the problem.
syncmaster
Master Don Juan
One of the bests posts i've read in a VERY long time. Women want to be seduced. I love this quote...
Women wake up everyday, some 2 hours earlier than they should - to apply makeup, to pick out the best outfit, to select the best perfume - in hopes that this will be the day that the guy from her office, or the kid in gym class, or the old guy in the corner of the retirement home, or that perfect man...will walk into her life, grab his ballz and make her his!
The opening of the article was amazingly well written. You really should put together a book of your posts.
Sarge on
--- Love Maverick.
Women wake up everyday, some 2 hours earlier than they should - to apply makeup, to pick out the best outfit, to select the best perfume - in hopes that this will be the day that the guy from her office, or the kid in gym class, or the old guy in the corner of the retirement home, or that perfect man...will walk into her life, grab his ballz and make her his!
The opening of the article was amazingly well written. You really should put together a book of your posts.
Sarge on
--- Love Maverick.
Boner da Stoner
Master Don Juan
I've gotten past the social barriers, I've started improving my life, I talk to great people everyday, and surround myself with books and alpha females and males, I workout, take classes, and seek as much excellence as possible in my life. My problem is, I keep getting AMOG'd... Everywhere I go there's people who openly in front of everybody still try to back talk to me, they won't hear counter arguments from friends or anything, in a bar they can be kicked out by the bar staff, but outside of there they won't stop hounding me... I used to be an AFC puzzy who got beat up once a week, pushed around, laughed at, my family life is never normal.
This is more of a cultural problem than anything, every AFC I have as a friend is comforting to be around ,because we've all had the same problems, abuse, alcohol fueled childhoods, drugs and fighting as a past-time, arguments are a part of life... and the ALPHA males everywhere are the guys who have back-up and take the gang route to influence anybody outside of government and strict business associations. Basically a third world country type setting... housing is always overpacked, prices are exhorbent, and there is nowhere other than walking, hiking and snow as a free source of entertainment outside of the bar.
I am ALWAYS depressed about his situation, I get excited and happy, but than I realize the truth of the matter and get the life force sucked out of me... I work towards fizing it, but I don't feel like putting the energy into women, when I know there are other guys who are losing the chance just because of their environment...
I had a question lined up, but this is the first time I've ever told anybody how I really feel....
I am lost
This is more of a cultural problem than anything, every AFC I have as a friend is comforting to be around ,because we've all had the same problems, abuse, alcohol fueled childhoods, drugs and fighting as a past-time, arguments are a part of life... and the ALPHA males everywhere are the guys who have back-up and take the gang route to influence anybody outside of government and strict business associations. Basically a third world country type setting... housing is always overpacked, prices are exhorbent, and there is nowhere other than walking, hiking and snow as a free source of entertainment outside of the bar.
I am ALWAYS depressed about his situation, I get excited and happy, but than I realize the truth of the matter and get the life force sucked out of me... I work towards fizing it, but I don't feel like putting the energy into women, when I know there are other guys who are losing the chance just because of their environment...
I had a question lined up, but this is the first time I've ever told anybody how I really feel....
I am lost
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Boner da Stoner
Master Don Juan
All the time, if this site didn't help me, I wouldn't be here. There is definitely something about being a Don Juan that brings out that something in me that I truly desire. One night stands, dark corner make-oput sessions, girls grabbing my hands and rubbing it on their bodies is old news to me. I am looking for respect, deep respect, from my peers.
I was a PUA, turned AFC... I turned into an AFC because I was disgusted with myself, I could pull girls with EC alone, I wouldn;t let them look past my soul, not even to my features. Than I realized that's not what I wanted, it hurt to realize it, and I tried and tried to find the other side of the situation... WHY was I looking for girls? I couldn;t find the answer, so I started being nice to everybody, EVERYBODY, and a grand feeling came over me, that I could still be a good person, and get the girls... and it still wasn't enough.
I have no routines, or guises, I have no tactics, or memorandi. I am simply me, unique, like everybody else... But when I became AFC I noticed all the other AFC, they are... pathetic, but still unique with something to offer... I tried to figure it out, and failed miserably, I've started 5 businesses, been manager thrice, and could never properly TEACH people away from an AFC type of life, I began to realize some don't want to change, or so I thought, "I am slave to none, so I am master to none" and I couldn't get past that point... than almost the day after I took a closer look at this AFC problem I recieved what I thoughyt was Junk mail from David Deangelo, he first gave me the word of average frustrated chump, and it scared me...
I did some quick searches, found Sosuave, masf, thundercats, seductionlair, bristol, and countless other sites, blogs and such... but Sosuave stuck with me, it was a unique concept, not focusing on women, but still encorporating them as a means of motivation.
I was a PUA, turned AFC... I turned into an AFC because I was disgusted with myself, I could pull girls with EC alone, I wouldn;t let them look past my soul, not even to my features. Than I realized that's not what I wanted, it hurt to realize it, and I tried and tried to find the other side of the situation... WHY was I looking for girls? I couldn;t find the answer, so I started being nice to everybody, EVERYBODY, and a grand feeling came over me, that I could still be a good person, and get the girls... and it still wasn't enough.
I have no routines, or guises, I have no tactics, or memorandi. I am simply me, unique, like everybody else... But when I became AFC I noticed all the other AFC, they are... pathetic, but still unique with something to offer... I tried to figure it out, and failed miserably, I've started 5 businesses, been manager thrice, and could never properly TEACH people away from an AFC type of life, I began to realize some don't want to change, or so I thought, "I am slave to none, so I am master to none" and I couldn't get past that point... than almost the day after I took a closer look at this AFC problem I recieved what I thoughyt was Junk mail from David Deangelo, he first gave me the word of average frustrated chump, and it scared me...
I did some quick searches, found Sosuave, masf, thundercats, seductionlair, bristol, and countless other sites, blogs and such... but Sosuave stuck with me, it was a unique concept, not focusing on women, but still encorporating them as a means of motivation.
Downrock27
Don Juan
Awesome thread.. totally pumped me up. I'm ready to go out and start living!
Shezz,
I said it before, I will say it again: “You are a genius!”
I am sure by the time you are my age 35, you will achieve great things for yourself and your fellow human beings. You are already doing it here by sharing and encouraging your fellow DJ’s.
Cheers,
-Sapiens
I said it before, I will say it again: “You are a genius!”
I am sure by the time you are my age 35, you will achieve great things for yourself and your fellow human beings. You are already doing it here by sharing and encouraging your fellow DJ’s.
Cheers,
-Sapiens