"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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MascaraSnake said:
It works if that's you. I'm a perpetual jokester and I use a moderate amount of neg-hits, but I wouldn't feel comfortable greeting someone with a semi-insulting pet name. If you use it 24/7, you'll just attract insecure and stupid women (which is sadly half of them).
I would say more than half :)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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People overdo it on the ****y, without paying attention to the funny. If it's done right, she should be laughing, playfully slapping/punching you and calling you names. If she rolls her eyes or doesn't react or gets offended, you're doing it WRONG.

I got ****ier and funnier over time naturally, and I ended up with a redhead wife who's about 2 times more of a smart-ass than I am. So if you don't want to marry a smart-ass wife who can bust you right back, watch out who you draw in... but if you're like me and enjoy the smart-assedness, go get yourself a redhead smart-ass!
 
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I agree with the title of this post. Several of you guys are internet nerds. Here is a little know fact. Your sense of humor isn't the same as normal average IQ'd people.

Get on your hot little lap tops and look up a old show called "Welcome Back Kotter" and look for the character of Arnold Horshack. Watch his nerd sense of humor and it will open your minds to the idea that ****y but funny may not be your best tool if your super smart.

Sorry. That is just the way it is.
 

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A lot of the ****y and funny I've seen seems to comes off as kinda phoney and corny to me. Maybe that is what the OP is talking about. You don't want to be on no Jim Carey sh*t but being humorous is cool. I think it is all about timing. I hope that makes sense, LOL.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

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Self deprecating humor may be a good alternative

The best kind of humor is the one where you don't need to rely on whether a person will be offended. I already mentioned clever commentary on the world in general (neutral because it doesn't involve setting the other person up as a straight man/comic foil). Or self deprecating humor where you're your own straigt man.
 

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I think people have the wrong idea when they hear ****y Funny. The short short version is that it's basically witty flirting, nothing more.
Surely then it should be called witty flirting? Seems simple enough to me lol.
 

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Yeah now that I think about ****y and funny isn't confidence at all. Anything with the word ****y isn't going to get you anywhere even if you try to be funny. When you try to be ****y and funny the attention moves onto you. You gotta make the girl feel good about herself when you leave and not have her feel like she's watching a comedy show. I honestly think that getting a girl is easy. The only part is the start because you don't like being rejected and everything. That's where self improvement comes into play. You gotta work on yourself to the point that you really love your life therefore your self creating tremendous amount of confidence. With that said, a smile alone can get a girl's attention if you started from the inside and not the outside using tactics. I agree with everyone who says be natural and act like she's your friend but at the same time showing your interest a little. Just my two cents!~
 

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I completely agree with Daddy The Pimp.

I agree because I've been through the whole stage of trying to be ****y/funny all the time and using canned lines.

If I understand correctly DTP is protesting again using canned lines and trying to use c/f all the time. I think he is trying to clear up how it is misused rather than condeming it all together.

The difference between being natural (being yourself) and being awkward is having the mindset of c/f. This is different from using canned lines. If you have the mindset of it you can come up with your own c/f lines on the spot, fitting the situation. That is being natural. If you try and force it or try to be someone else that just isn't going to work. I don't think rehersing lines is going to turn you into a natural. Getting the mindset for it will.

Like the OP I am sick of all the threads that say "what c/f line should I have used there" or "what c/f line should i say to this". There are a lot of them. C/f is NOT a magic pill. It does NOT instantly create attraction with any girl. However it has been marketed by David D as that. You don't NEED it. I know a lot of guys that are very successful with women and they don't get close to c/f. It however can be a good tool if you use it right. Like some people have said, when you use it right it is just like witty flirting.
 

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Dude I'm so wasted right now.
haha props to you if you really are, I've done that a couple times here, writing a long emo paragraph about the problems me and the last girl I talked to were having, and then getting embarrassed about it the next morning.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Also , another problem with C+F is that the nices guy , read DyD and than go to school and when someone asks for a pencile , he sees that as a sh1t test and feels the need to respond with some lame ass responses he read on the book .

Also , im so fvcking pissed from guys that see anything like a sh1t test :box:

When a girl asks you to hold her bag for a second HOLD IT BIATCHHH :cuss: .
Maybe she just wants to show that she's closer to you and believes you her belongings
 

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Asteconn said:
Surely then it should be called witty flirting? Seems simple enough to me lol.
simple is not simple to those who aren't used to it. That's why they have to give it all names and labels and break it down to the quantum level just to understand it. It's nerdy as hell, but then again most pickup stuff is geared to nerds who don't know the basics at all. :rolleyes:
 

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I agree with the OP (after he cleared up his point). It's not that being C+F is bad, it's relying on canned matterial will get you into trouble. Using canned matterial is something a robot would do. If you run into a situation where the material doesn't quite fit, you will either shut down (like a robot might) or you will roughly try to fit a square peg into a round hole. Either way, you are done.

If you however are a humanbeing that is capable of free thinking, you will be able to adapt to any situation, and make use it for your interaction. Instead of using someone elses material, you'll make up your own on the spot.

I can tell you that there is a world of difference between using C+F, and being ****y and funny. As others have said, the former is a technique to cover ones short comings, and the later is a state of being.

I don't "use" techniques. I am naturally funny, and the "techniques" just happen on their own.

You can learn to be funnier, but not through the use of canned material. You want to learn to be funnier, don't just focus on what is being said exactly, you have to work on timing, body language, what kind of material is funny. Then you have to consider what material fits into your persona, even if it's funny, it'll be akward if it's not natural to you (think Seinfeld if he did a race joke). You also have to have a good sense of irony, because irony is fundamental to a good joke.

I reccomend that everyone who wants to get funnier start watching, Colbert, Daily show, Chris Rock, Seinfeld, Rodney Dangerfield, Old SNL, Old Jim Carey stand up routines, Dave Chappelle, Dane Cook(tho I think he beats some of his jokes to death), Robin Williams routines, and for fvcks sakes stay away from Zoolander!

There is your home work for the semester. Ace this and you'll be scoring double D's for sure.
 

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Daddy The Pimp said:
Also , another problem with C+F is that the nices guy , read DyD and than go to school and when someone asks for a pencile , he sees that as a sh1t test and feels the need to respond with some lame ass responses he read on the book .

Also , im so fvcking pissed from guys that see anything like a sh1t test :box:

When a girl asks you to hold her bag for a second HOLD IT BIATCHHH :cuss: .
Maybe she just wants to show that she's closer to you and believes you her belongings
Yeah even when one of my close girl FRIENDS wanted me to hold her wallet because she needed to do something important I struggled not to use a ****y/funny line. Now I see generosity is actually very attractive. I've even seen that written in evolutionary biology books. I know how ****/funny can work from experience now, but I also know where it doesn't. "When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything will look like nails".
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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