Stop Concentrating on pickup lines, and Openers. Concentrate on the system!

[Stéphane]

Instead of concentrating on openers, and pickup lines. Concentrate on the system. Build yourself a plan, that will help you acheive your goals. Just like in business, getting women is all about the system.

The reason Mystery method works:

The mystery method works, because he built a system, that would help him acheive his goals. (getting laid) The more he used the system, the more he analyzed it, and changed it to make it work better. For example The Mystery method is basically.

Opener > Ask for an Opinion or make a statement > Win the group > give the girl you like just enough attention so she doesn't leave > Neg the girl you like > Isolate her > Prove your value (this is when inner game is valuable) > Close

This is mystery system, and everyone can create there own system. Or take an existing one, and tweak it to your liking. Picking up girls is all a routine, the more you realise that the better you can execute it.

After you created your system you can write down a bunch of tricks, tests, and lines you could use.

Example:

Opener:
- The Party over here!
- Did you see those 2 girls fight?
- You look like a Tasha, am I right?
- The girls in Toronto are fineeee.

Ask an opinion:
- What do you think about this situation, if your bf had pics of his ex on his wall would you be mad?
- What do you think about world hunger, my friend says we're selfish for been sheltered, and nurtured, do you agree with him?

Win the group
- Handshake the guys, and talk to the uglier girls, and the alpha female.
- Magic tricks
- Do something cool.
- Be funny

Give the girl you like a little of attention:
- If I wasn't gay i'd totally be over you.
- Your remind me of my sister. (haha this is more of a neg)

neg the girl:
- Do you need gum?
- Your nose is so cute.
- You got a cute accent.

Isolate her:
- Hey do you guys mind if I steal you girlfriend for a bit, I was alienating her.

Prove your worth.
- Best friend test
- Mind reading
- Something that will blow her mind.

Close:
- Nice meeting you, but I better go. Give me your number.
- have you ever kissed a french boy before. What do you think it feels like. (RAAA)

Create your own system, and then write down some pickup lines. This will improve everyone game. Always run the same routines, but try to change the lines, and try to always improve your routine.

A good system is a good business. A commun mistake people make in business is that they concentrate on the product, and they assume that it will sell by itself. This is entirely wrong, the system sells for the product. The product is the least important factor, in this case the routines are the system, and the products are the lines.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I get the who system/methodology mindset but I'm finding that it's easier for most guys to just memorize lines instead of concepts.

 

[Stéphane]

Lines won't get you anywhere, there only good for opening, and closing. While a system will help you reach the closing much more effectively.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Lines won't get you anywhere, there only good for opening, and closing. While a system will help you reach the closing much more effectively.

I'm not disagreeing with you, just saying that most guys it's easier to memorize lines which they can use on every approach and if they do it enough they may get lucky.

 

[Stéphane]

Yeah, you might get lucky, but why not build a system that will get you laid all the time?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Yeah, you might get lucky, but why not build a system that will get you laid all the time?

Please, most guys aren't planning beyond getting her phone number...

 

[Stéphane]

Bump, this thread is epic everyone needs to see.

 

[Dongfu]

I developed a system called Pro-Active, No-Pressure Pick-Up that works very well for me.

The important thing about systems is that they take the place of judgments and feelings.

Who is not guilty of looking at a woman and thinking, "I wonder if she'll like me? I wonder if she's a good one? She just doesn't look that friendly."

Judging women will distract you from approaching. And dont you feel better some days than others?

So if your behavior is dictated by feelings and judgments, then it will be erratic. A system assures that you "just do" what needs to be done.

 

[Stéphane]

I'm actually thinking of using that plan, just with different lines. Is that a woman who posted this?

No, it' actualy a french guy who posted this. Anyways, the reason making a system works it's because it will help you acheive your goals.

Like Dongfu said, making a system will take care of judgement, and feelings. With a system you just follow the steps, and you just do what is needed to acheive your goal.

This concept is very powerful, and will help you acheive your goals much more efficiently. That's why the mystery method really works, it has a perfect system. Once step 1 is completed, you shift to step 2, until you finally close.

You can use an existing system, and create your own lines. Or you can create your own system with your own lines. It's your choice, a system is a guide to reach your goals. Just like an instruction manual.

 

[LeComteDeMonteCristo]

Welcome to Social Robotics 101.

 

[Dongfu]

Welcome to Social Robotics 101.

Good point, however, and this is important:

When using a system, always add two ingredients:

1. Common Sense
2. Your own personality

If a woman walks up to you and says "take me to bed right now," forget the system and ring it up. That's common sense.

By adding your personality to a system, you remain fluid and unmechanical. The system is just a reference point. Eventually you aren't thinking in terms of "Step 1, Approach, etc." It is more unconscious and ingrained.

That being said, everyone has their own system they are using, whether it's working or not. AFC's have a bad system.

The most free form DJ that can adapt to any environment still has a foundation in a system. It's like a kung fu master who can forget about his particular style and system he learned, so he can adapt to fighters of another style. If he fights a wrestler, he will have to adapt. But the system still remains within him. It is part of his consciousness.

When you apply this to women, that is what Dong Fu is. A systemless system. The paradox of duality. Balanced duality is what attracts women. Just being an a$$hole player with the right knowledge isnt enough. Being a really stand-up person who is genuine and sincere isnt enough. You must be both:

A genuine sincere a$$hole. :crazy:

 

[Stéphane]

DongFu +1 on that post.

 

[Stéphane]

BUMP, this should be in the bible.