"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Still can't tell difference between being played and disinterest

johnnyrem

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I've been doing the dating thing for awhile, and I still cannot tell the difference between disinterest and playing hard to get. In the meantime, I've made some wrong assumptions-that is, women I though weren't interested were, and some women I thought might be playing hard to get just weren't interested.

A question for the accomplished Don Juans, then:

How do YOU know if she's playing you or is just not interested?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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PRMoon

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If you press the issue with a girl who isn't interested she will most certainly tell you.

If she's playing hard to get she'll test your patience and see what you'll go through/put yourself through to get with her, but say nothing about where you stand with her until you cross that threshold.
 

earthshyne

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Some wimmen have honed their skills to a fine edge, so you may never really know.

But, IMHO (well, drop the H, cuz I ain't), I'd approach it from a different angle. It is not I that has to deal with all the mind games and the lead-ons and all the chaff that wimmen throw around to keep themselves "mysterious." It's up to them to deal with me as I am. It is not up to me to play their little games in hopes of getting some.

If you think you're getting played, or think it's a "hard to get" game, the result for me would be identical... NEXT.

I don't have the time, energy or patience to deal with all that nonsense.
 

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i for one dont have time to put up with chicks that play hard to get one chick tried it for a whole year, thinking i was still interested when she told me she wanted me i told her you lost ur chance. like earthshine said i dont have time for that nonsense.
as for being played, disintrest and playing hard to get i dont give a **** about those things only girl who likes me i go for her.
 

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I agree with the last two posts. I am more turned on by chicks who show interest right off the bat. When an attractive girl gives me that long lingering stare or does other things that show she is attracted to me, it really gets me going.

On the other hand, I have dealt with so called hard to get girls or girls who follow the "Rules" and in the end they usually end up shooting themselves in the foot because after all the games I lose interest no matter how hot she is.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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johnnyrem

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For me, the disinterest/hard to get signals show up at one particular time; when she figures she has the upper hand in the dating relationship.

Example: Go out with a girl a couple of times, have great conversation, you feel the sexual attraction, etc, etc. During the third date you decide to assert yourself and attempt to walk her up to the door (a lead in for a goodnight kiss; she knows it, I know it) and she tells you it's not necessary. WTF? The vibes were there.

Up to that point, she had returned your calls promptly when you left messages, offered alternate times she was available for dating if you suggested a day when she was busy, etc. etc. Now calls aren't returned until AFTER the weekend, say on Sunday night (3-4 days after they were placed) when there is less chance of doing something significant. I'm in school, so the weekends are really my only free time, and she knows this. The next time you ask for a date, she has "a big test to study for."

Now, I know there are a lot of other fish in the sea, and unless I'm really attracted I don't care that much. I'll admit sometimes I am, though, and some really intelligent women play this game very well. I have a weakness for smart chicks (sex with them is usually fantastic).

I figure if I walk away, then they attempt to contact me after I don't call for a few weeks, I know where I stand, and I'll ask them out. Trouble is, a lot of women that finally admitted they are very interested wouldn't even do that much. The only way I figured it out was that after being absent for, say, six months, they would comment to a mutual friend that I was hot or was "one of the best guys I've ever dated." I figure the reason is that they never returned a call that I didn't initiate first, and to call me for any reason (even after giving ME the cold shoulder) would seem "desperate" (sounds like "Rules Girls" don't they? I run into this **** a lot). That ******* book should be used to bludgeon the idiot women authors who wrote that trash.

Of course, by that time, I'm pretty pissed off about it and won't give them the time of day for a date. Their loss, but a few of the women were really good people aside from their hard to get disfunctionality. How do I know? Hung out with them in my group of friends and got to really know them, strictly platonically, of course.

So back to topic: I appreciate that it's really hard to tell the difference. God knows I can't.

Any other advice/comments appreciated.

And yes, PR Moon, just as you said, they are reserved about expressing any open affection before they start playing games/showing disinterest. The sexual tension is there, but any conscious displays of affection or attraction are absent. It would help if I could read signals better, but I have to pay attention to what they DO, not how they ACT. Or is that reversed? Who the hell knows with women.

My favorite quote:

Why do women have *******? So men will talk to them!
 

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QUOTE](sounds like "Rules Girls" don't they? I run into this **** a lot). That ******* book should be used to bludgeon the idiot women authors who wrote that trash.[/QUOTE]

Amen, brother. Few things are more frustrating than dealing w/ a girl who plays those f*cking games. Anymore I just get fed up after a few rounds of that garbage and move on. You can always spot those girls by the way they will not make any contact unless you have done it first, even if you have called her or talked to her before. They want YOU to work for THEM.

If she doesnt make it clear that she's into you, then for the love of God dont waste your time!!!

Give her three strikes...If after three attempts to talk to her, flirt w/ her, tease her, or whatever, she still shows no CLEAR interest...dump that ho. :cool:
 

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there are gals that are freindly adn talkitve and .... and when u ask em out they say NO.
ok whts with that. from what i asked before the gals was just being freindly and all. so being friendly vs interested hard to find out
 
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