Still can't get her on phone...

[matius]

I've been trying this girl I met last week. Left a message the first time around, then every other day I call and just get the answering machine.

Should I leave another message?

 

[Sir Shags Alot]

Dude if she wanted to get ahold of you she would have already. Move on!

 

[Chewy Bagel]

If a girl who you were interested in called you and left a message, would you return her call?

If that happens with me, then I NEXT her. I called a girl from the gym recently and she didn't answer her CELL PHONE! I left a message (I don't call and hang up - chicks know). Well, I haven't spoken to her since - and she's made no attempt to talk with me.

 

[Starman]

Leave her this message

"Hey Its me Matius again! I left you a message earlier..you probably werent home..but I know you're home Now! I see your lights on! Look outside your window and wave hello!

 

[echo1212]

Please dont call her anymore and save us all the agony of reading another pathetic why isnt she calling me post. If she wanted to call you, she will, trust me.

 

[matius]

Please dont call her anymore and save us all teh agony o reading another pathetic why isnt she calling me post

Echo that. I wouldn't ever write, "Why isn't she calling me".

 

[b's nuts]

she would have called, definately no IL, NEXT!

 

[sustainable007]

Interesting topic Matius

Theres more to this than meets the eye...Ive been in this situation with 5 consecutive girls...I understand the low IL thing...and have that down pat..but what i wonder is if there is more than that...for instance what i wonder is if this is a sign of a girl who is passive & weak....Is it really that hard to say no...I dont think so..I asked a girl for her # last week and she flat out said no...So why in the phuck would a girl give u her number only not to talk to you...Thats just so Pi$$y...IMO: Girls who do this are either:

1. Lesbian
2. Have a bf
3. Psycho
4. 1,2,3
5. AFC (yes, I think the majority of women are AFC's who are afraid and lack the openmindedness to go beyond their comfort zone....)

 

[Pimp-sicle]

sustainable: Lots of times chicks give you their number so they can GET AWAY !!! No joke, I don't know why they don't just give out a fake number if they feel bad(AFC's)

Whenever you # close a HB, always always ALWAYS put your cell phone on Private before you call her. That way if she doesn't answer, you don't have to leave a message and she'll never know who called. The next time you can un lock your caller id and just leave a message. This is essence gives you a "free phone call" so you have a better chance of catching her. But in all reality if a chick gives you her number and is into, she'll call you back.

 

[matius]

Yeah, just give me a fake number next time or say no...

I wouldn't call more than 3 times.

 

[matius]

sustainable: Lots of times chicks give you their number so they can GET AWAY !!! No joke, I don't know why they don't just give out a fake number if they feel bad(AFC's)

That shyte is ridiculous. Can someone please explain this to me...

Are you saying that girls are so incredibly intelligent as to pick up on if you're an AFC or a 'Cool Dude' within 3 minutes of meeting you and getting their actually real number? To me, getting an 'actual' number is a step in the right direction.

I understand the not wanting to call back part but...

'if they feel bad', wtf. To recieve the compliment of being asked out or for their phone number. I'm not a slob, I'm sure that I didn't come across as an AFC-- but I do know one thing for certain, there was not enough time for her to figure me out in that short amount of time. I think you give them too much credit.

It's the same thing everywhere here...oh, she knows within two minutes of meeting you what you are about. Is that a bit strange to anyone else here.

There must be another reason or two as to why first dates sometimes don't get made.

save us all the agony of reading another pathetic why isnt she calling me post

No more talky.

 

[matius]

Tried to contact her one last time. That was three phone calls and a text message...over a weeks time. The text message was a last attempt because I felt there was a problem with her phone.

At last she calls to tell me it was a good thing I sent the text. Her phone was phukked up...or it wasn't...I don't care. So if I quit I might not of had a chance >> not of had a chance > had a chance > chance > chance > chance. Echo...echo...

 

[-HPNOTIQ-]

Cell phone phukked up eh? I use that one on girls I promise to call, yet, never do. Cell phone is phukked, I had no reception, my SIM card is messed up, I dropped my phone now it trips out - all lines.

When she called you back, did you set up a date? If not, she's got you by the b*lls and is playing you like an AFC fiddle. 3 calls, one text in one week? AFC to me bro.

If you indeed set up a date, good luck with this chica.

 

[matius]

Got me by the balls...how?

Also, I'm one for thinking that the game isn't over until I give it my best shot. She can't have too much game without ever talking to me in the first place you know.

Where does the game begin and end? Surely, if you have 3 minutes to get a number at a bar. And you don't come off like a jackass-- and she gives you her number...you're not doing too bad in the game right.

So, I work to get a girls number for one week. It didn't occupy my day. I didn't think about it at all except for when I called.

So, I gave it one last shot and she called. If she didn't that was it. So somebody tell me when these girls are given too much credit. Or what was wrong with my approach.

Should I have called once, left a message and nexted her for not calling back?

 

[Pimp-sicle]

matius: Bro you can believe what you want to, but you answered your own question. You said there are only 2-3 minutes before you # close, so its not enough time for a girl to know if she's interested in you or not. That's bullshat!! She knows right when start working your game on her within the first 30 seconds if she's interested in you. Its been said and I've asked many chicks about this, that girl s know if they would let a guy fuk 'em within 5 minutes.

I'll be surprised if you get a first date with this chick. Not saying it won't happen, but it would be surprising. Persistency might be the key sometimes, but I don't believe in chasing girls, they should chase me.

 

[matius]

-HPNOTIQ- >> When you give that excuse to girls that call you, how do you get in that situation in the first place? I mean do you two exchange numbers? Is it after a few dates, one date or a couple of dates? Does she look you up in the phone book when you don't call?

For real, because I would rather be the one with excuses you know. I'm also asking because I'm very interested to know when you stop trying to atleast get one date out of the deal.

Some girls will make it obvious, some girls will make you work. Maybe there is no line.

 

[-HPNOTIQ-]

Leaving messages, texting, never getting replies = Never getting the hint.

You come off as a needy guy, that always calls, and has no life other than to bug her. Do it enough, and she'll think you are some kinda creep.

I'm not trying to flame you bro. Women are just like this. It's not fare, I know. We all want to act like gentleman and when we are really interested in a woman, we we want to let her know. But, being needy only lowers her IL.

Women want a challenge, just like men. Regardless of how hot a woman is, I can guarantee you would be bored of an HB that called everyday, nagged everyday, texted everyday, etc.

It reminds me of the phone clip on the Movie "Swingers". If you haven't seen this movie, rent it TONIGHT

BTW - Did you set up a date or not?

 

[matius]

Pimp-sicle -

I have an open mind and I'm willing to bend with certain theories that come my way. But 30 seconds, that's a joke. That means that looks are the only key. In 30 seconds, the only thing she would decide is, okay he looks like ass monkey, I'm not fukken. Or he looks hot so I'll talk to him more, then fukk him. I doubt that.

Why does it take $300 and two months time to get laid in the United States. Exaggerated for some of course but you get my drift. I don't think every chick knows within 30 seconds if they want some random dude that walked up to them at some seedy club- c'mon.

And as for this girl, I don't care if I get the date or not...but it would be a bonus if I did.

 

[matius]

My point was, she can have low interest because I used technology to text- or she can have no chance of low interest by not going out and seeing what was up at all.

I used to be needy. I'm not anymore...what I am is a bit fed up with getting a girls number who seems to have a high IL- then not getting a first date. Flaws in my game probably, but I don't feel there is enough time for them to know what it's about between the time I get the number to the time I talk to them to set up a date...

BTW - Did you set up a date or not?

No. And I might not either. That's cool though- I can't sweat something that never started you see what I mean.

 

[-HPNOTIQ-]

Originally posted by matius
-HPNOTIQ- >> When you give that excuse to girls that call you, how do you get in that situation in the first place? I mean do you two exchange numbers? Is it after a few dates, one date or a couple of dates? Does she look you up in the phone book when you don't call?

For real, because I would rather be the one with excuses you know. I'm also asking because I'm very interested to know when you stop trying to atleast get one date out of the deal.

Some girls will make it obvious, some girls will make you work. Maybe there is no line.

It's different for men and women in this situation. Rarely, you will have a girl come up to you and ask for your number - and MORE rare, you will give her a fake number.

But, on the occassion where this has happened, it was usually someone I was introduced to at a party or friends-of-friends gathering.

I choose to give my real phone number to a girl that I have low IL to because I don't want to come off as a jerk. In my head, I'm thinking LJBF to the girl. So, I can't be an A-hole and give her a fake number. So, I give her my real number. She calls, then I make up excuses why I don't answer or I never call her back - Cell phone is broken, Work is keeping me busy, etc. Funny thing, the girl becomes AFC and is ALWAYS calling. It gets more annoying, and after a while, I never call her back.

Honestly, I don't know how you met this girl. But, she might just be trying to be nice. She might think LJBF to you, and, you feed her thoughts by constantly calling her and acting needy.

If she REALLY wants you bro...there are regular telephones - she would have called you from home.