Still an AFC on the inside???

[Michael Chief]

I have no problem with flirting around with any girl i want - i do this all the time.
I'm a ****y fella. I'm pretty d@mn confident nowadays.
If a girl gives me bullsh!t, i dismiss her.
I put myself and my life first. I make no sacrifices.
I coach plenty of my friends who need help with this kinda stuff. I turn AFCs into DJing pimps.
I can easily talk to any girl i want! Plenty of girls that i never gave the time of day have been attracted to me.

HOWEVER...
Whenever i start dating a girl and actually get to LIKE her... (one-itis isnt involved here, mind you)...I WUSS UP!
I don't turn into a classic AFC that showers her with gifts, calls her everyday, etc. I generally keep my cool composure.
But lets say i always end up being just enough of a wuss to get a LJBF.
My friend says my problem is that im using too much kino to the point of needy AFC-like behavior.

I'm in the middle of another one of these cycles right now and i can feel myself slipping into the LJBF trap... which sucks because i actually like this girl.

What can i do to boost some attraction here?

Help!

 

[wavejams007]

Keep in mind the gangi games, and identify what wussifies you. Mr. Debbionair or some other more experienced dude than me will also probably elaborate better than I can.

Good Luck.

 

[Sammo]

How many girls have you slept with?
How much experience do you have with seduction?

Chances are, with people in high school, is you havent slept with many and you havent much experience. So, you dont REALLY like this girl you just think you do.

Most girls are worthless, even more so in high school. People in high school arent emotionally prepared for a relationship - so dont get in one! Shes good for one thing - sex (or maybe if she has hot friends that would be better sex).

This belief will get you out of the 'friends zone', TRUST me.

 

[Michael Chief]

haha thats quite a bitter outlook, sammo.

IMO, you're forgetting what young love was like.

But i'm guilty of bitterness as well... I had this unwavering belief that all females are nothing more than worthless *****s and sluts...This is due to some unfortunate events in my life (you can guess that I have had SOME kind of experience)...but I am currently working on getting rid of this bitterness because being bitter is unnattractive. According to Swinggcat, I should believe that females are "wonderful creatures that love sex and want to please."

I think it's interesting how he says "wonderful creatures" because, in my mind, i foolishly connected "loving sex and wanting to please" with "worthless sluts."

Then i realized that ALL humans, male and female, are driven primarily on the will to reproduce.

To LIKE someone is quite different from LOVING someone. It's much shallower...it's the feeling of attraction towards someone. So I am basically saying that I am pretty damn attracted to this girl.

And by no means do i want a SERIOUS long lasting relationship right now...but I think that a simple "puppy love" kind of relationship would be ideal for the momment. I'm still young and I'd like to experience more "young love" while I still can.

Some might say that "young love" is a crock of bull. But from a musician's perspective, what i can FEEL is REAL (for the time being at least...the song may end, but it was still felt).

My question was not "how do i get OUT of the friendzone" ...
it was more along the lines of "what do i do to run back to the Lover's Ladder while i can feel the quicksand of the Friend Zone creeping at my shoelaces?"

But, i will take your viewpoint into account, Sammo. Thank you for your contribution.

 

[Sammo]

I am not bitter towards women. I am pointing out the facts.

I love girls, i love ****ing them. But i find it extremely difficult to relate with one, when i do then i will be suprised. I am in no way a misogynist, i can just see girls for what they really are.

This young love your speaking of, it really is bull ****. There will be plenty of time for 'love' when your a man (There is absolutetly NO difference between love as a man and as an adolescent except theres a possibility of love as a man being REAL).

High school is the foundation for the rest of your life. You should be meeting as many girls as you can so that when you are older it will be alot easier to identify a girl you really can see you spending your life with. Not latching on to anything you can get that is mildly attractive.

You wont get out of the friends zone if you latch on to a girl you 'like', you should be attracted to her as well as many other girls, go after them all. Dont want to be in the friends zone - try not being her friend.