"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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OVERVIEW: Hey guys after returning from years ago, I have come with a new situation. Im now a junior in college at a state university. I consider myself a good looking guy (Modeled, competed in bodybuilding contests, etc.) but I have never been (that) successful with women.

SITUATION: Been after a coworker for about 6 months, recently weve been hanging out a lot. I would call her a HB7 but with a killer personality(Sophomore in school). She recently stopped seeing a guy I know last week (For 1 year). (She wanted to be in a relationship with him but hes a player). Halloween night she calls me up and we hangout all night (We were both very drunk). Finally kiss her and we make out all night etc... She stopped us from having sex and said, "I dont think im ready for this rightnow". Went to bed and woke up and she said, "We cant do this for a while." Asked her why and she said the same thing, "I dont think im ready for this rightnow". Had breakfast and a great time, been texting ever since.

PROBLEM: Now, I dont know where to go from here... Ive been in relationships, ive had one night stands, ive had casual relationships.... this is a whole other situation. I figure ill keep what ive been doing since it works but this is a girl I could see myself with for a long time. I want to further things but I dont know how to go about doing it. I just wanted your input and advice on what I should do, thanks guys! Glad to be back...
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Date other girls. Make her realize that you have your options open. This will make you more attractive to her.

Don't agree to being exclusive until you are having sex. She gets to be your girlfriend, you get to have sex with her. Otherwise, no deal.

Don't be too clingy, and don't be afraid to neg her or disconnect with her just a bit.
 

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I plan to keep my options open and do so but I actually genuinely like this girl, Most girls I would love to F*** and kick to the curb but I want to keep this one.
 

DonJuan11

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Jug_head_man said:
OVERVIEW: Im now a junior in college at a state university. I consider myself a good looking guy (Modeled, competed in bodybuilding contests, etc.) but I have never been (that) successful with women.

Been after a coworker for about 6 months, recently weve been hanging out a lot. I would call her a HB7 but with a killer personality(Sophomore in school). She recently stopped seeing a guy I know last week (For 1 year). (She wanted to be in a relationship with him but hes a player).

That's according to her, you have to hear his side of the story. He could say she's the biggest bvtch in the world. (I'm sure she's not, but don't believe everything a HB7 with a killer personality tells you)

Halloween night she calls me up and we hangout all night (We were both very drunk). Finally kiss her and we make out all night etc... She stopped us from having sex and said, "I dont think im ready for this rightnow". Went to bed and woke up and she said, "We cant do this for a while." Asked her why

You should not have asked her why. "Why aren't you ready to have sex with me" = "I need to sleep with you now, otherwise I may lose my game, get sex from another girl, forget how to use it, etc." That doesn't make her feel special, that doesn't make her feel wanted. You have to treat her like she's the only girl in the world for you.

"We can't do this for a while"
"Of course, forgive me if I ever made you feel uncomfortable. Let me take you home."


and she said the same thing, "I dont think im ready for this rightnow". Had breakfast and a great time, been texting ever since.

PROBLEM: Now, I dont know where to go from here... Ive been in relationships, ive had one night stands, ive had casual relationships.... this is a whole other situation. I figure ill keep what ive been doing since it works but this is a girl I could see myself with for a long time. I want to further things but I dont know how to go about doing it.
You can't further things by sleeping with her right away. Build a relationship, make her trust you, make her be comfortable around you, make her have so much fun with you that she forgets about every problem she ever had in her life, and her previous boyfriend.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Hmmm, I see what you're saying. My problem is I dont know when to give her attention and when not to give her attention. I guess im looking for that mean, any help there?
 

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This is the problem when you put all your eggs in one basket.

She is asking you to wait and I am calling bullsh1t on that. Women with high interest levels "do not wait" or "can't do this right now". I'm also not buying the fact that she stopped seeing the player, because she is crazy about him.

Go date other women, don't wait on her.
 
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