"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Sticking point definitely has to be F-closing. HELP ME!!!!

Lil Magic

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I feel like my skills of spitting game are pretty decent and I hardly even use this anymore, only when I have a real problem that I can't seem the beat. Most recently, its been f-closing. I go to a relatively small college away from the cities. With that in mind, single attractive girls dont stay single to long so I've found that its absolutely necessary to be able to spit game at girls with boyfriends, otherwise there'll hardly be any girls to spit game at at all.

But basically this is the story. For the last two nights, me and a few of my boys have hung out with a group of girls. On Friday night, I met these girls for the first time. There were 3 of them and 3 of us so we went to work. I ended up with HB Heidi, an 8 with an amazing booty and great boobs as well. She was from out of state, just visiting her cuz, HB Jen, whom my cousin was keeping occupied. We ended up having a mini house party with a loooooooot of drinks in which I was getting some serious IOIs from Heidi, some really hard grinding, IOIs, kino, lapdances, the works, and it all seemed to be going well, I even managed to isolate, but at this point, after some more IOIs and kino she gave me the dreaded words :I have a boyfriend. So although we continued the kino and IOI's, any escalation attempt beyond that was shot down. She even said she wanted to and she knew that I probably wanted to sleep with her. But my night ended with nothing more than an "I had a good time" and some more eye contact.

The very next night, we went over by the girls to meet up with heidi again but she went home. Buuuuuut a new target came, HB Brittany, short senior whos ass was astoundingly huge considering her height. I went to the bar with her and my other buddy and his target while we left my cuz at the appartment with HB Jen. HB Brittany definitely played hard to get at the beginning of the night before giving into dancing with me. the grinding wen to on for a while and got more and more provocative to the point where she rubbed her boobs on my hard dck. So while we were grinding and talking she found out i was a psych major and asked me to read her.

THIS IS WHERE THE FUN STARTS. So I did some reading and pointed out that she seemed to be attracted to me a lot, at which point she admitted that she was very, but had a boyfriend. We continued grinding and ended up talking about sex and I told her how I like small girls because I can pick them up, at which point I picked her up and wrapped her legs around me on and table and I started sucking on her neck. She clearly enjoyed it and let me do it for about 10 seconds before backing up and tellin me how much she liked it but had a bf.

LONG STORY SHORT, I NEED A WAY TO GET PAST THE BF DEFENSE GIRLS USE. I MISSED OUT ON POSSIBLE TWO NIGHTS OF SEX WITH TWO DIFFERENT GIRLS BECAUSE OF IT.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Zodiac

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Lil Magic said:
LONG STORY SHORT, I NEED A WAY TO GET PAST THE BF DEFENSE GIRLS USE. I MISSED OUT ON POSSIBLE TWO NIGHTS OF SEX WITH TWO DIFFERENT GIRLS BECAUSE OF IT.
Well if you want to just have sex and no care about going against a girl that is dating a guy or using the excuse you think they are then go for Sorority girls. Just make nice with two or three of them and you'll have an in to sex. Seriously man sorority girls are easy.
 

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HB: I have a bf
DJ: Me too. *continue escalation*

HB: I have a bf
DJ: Yet here you are grinding against ME. ;)

HB: I have a bf
DJ: Yeah me, but only for tonight.

HB: I have a bf
DJ: Now I'm implicated in this crime you're perpetrating, we can't stop now then.

HB: I have a bf
DJ: Bring him next time


Not the best examples but see what point I'm driving here?

Disregard her Anti-slut defence and continue, within reason obviously.
 

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DonJuan_DeRosco said:
HB: I have a bf
DJ: Me too. *continue escalation*

HB: I have a bf
DJ: Yet here you are grinding against ME. ;)

HB: I have a bf
DJ: Yeah me, but only for tonight.

HB: I have a bf
DJ: Now I'm implicated in this crime you're perpetrating, we can't stop now then.

HB: I have a bf
DJ: Bring him next time


Not the best examples but see what point I'm driving here?

Disregard her Anti-slut defence and continue, within reason obviously.
^:crackup:
In my experience (I won't ever speak beyond what I've been through), messing with a girl who's taken is a huge waste of your time. I was in a similar situation as you; girl had a boyfriend, we'd be sensual with each other, endlessly, but never taking it to home plate. Now, provided you've the patience, she can be worked out of her panties. The girl I was with always would tell me, "I can't; I'm not a cheater anymore."

.............................................................Wait.............


"I can't; I'm not a cheater anymore."..

You can get her under the right circumstance, and the advice DeRosco provided is my point. She doesn't want to feel like a wh0re. Really, when she's pressed against the wall, you on her neck, telling you that B.S, she's just talking to herself----trying to convince herself she has morals; Within reason, brush those off, and bring it on home. Chances are though, she'll keep putting you off.. And this wraps around my original concern. Two other girls were willing to get with you, boss... I don't see how the two over one deal didn't grab you. There are other women more willing, as exemplified.

What concluded in my story is when I got sick of hearing that, I up and left. Told I'll see her when I see her.. Never looked back...

Two weeks later, she broke it off with her dude.... Needless to say, she contacted me without hesitation.
 

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sometimes no matter how good your game is the girl wont cheat. however this game can be won. i know cause this is one of my wing man's specialties. i'll give you the cliff notes version. you have to lower the girl's anti-slut defense by showing to her that you understand her situation, and that you are a very non-judgemental person. the first time she mentions her bf just blow it off like its a total lie. sometimes it is a lie, and its just a s.hit test. the second time you hear it, probably makes it true, intentionally put her into the friend zone. keep you kino tight, but make sure you are the one initiating it, not just grind dancing. girls dance with each other like that, so just cause she's doing it to you means nothing. keep your kino escalating and use push pull big time. blame her for trying to seduce you, keep pushing her away. after a while she will begin to start escalating kino on you. thats when you go in for the kiss, after about a second do the same thing. push her away, say you cant, cause you wont be able to control yourself. next time she comes back she ready to be banged.

go back to step one and make sure you drive that home. you also have to show that you are not just looking to get laid. most women will cheat you just have to give them a good excuse to. you have to make them feel your not just out for sex, you wont judge her, and most importantly you wont be weird or stalk her afterward. she wants to use the excuse later that, it just happened, i dont know, one thing lead to another. it doesnt work if you are just hitting on her, she must be the one chasing you, cause the descision is ultimately up to her.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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