I looked as usual, bit got nada. Where do us (mature) men find women, especially for non-commited type endeavors?? I haven't had very good success with bars, and I have been to thousands, albeit that was before I found this place. It seems that all the girls at bars are only looking for the guys their age, which is usually 21-23 ish. Or the opposite end of the spectrum, I have heard people say anywhere, but I don't see how to go about approaching a woman in say, a grocery store and attempting to bed her later. Same w bookstore, street, gym, etc.The dating website girls seem to all be looking for marriage and ltrs. I have no intention of settling down anytime soon, but it seems like all the nsa sex days are behind me, unless I'm just being cynical. Where can we find women that just want to have fun so to speak?? Thanks.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Stepping outside the bar.....
- Thread starter Drewskie
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
thedeparted
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anywhere. get a book like mystery method and learn cold approach. if that is too much work get on craigslist and write a few ads. half the women will go home with you on a 1st date. we are living in the era of the super-slut, when every girl does anal, or else thinks she should. getting a piece of @ss is easier than getting a parking ticket. good luck
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
You're 28. How is this at all a problem? I sincerely doubt the problem is that 21-23 y.o. women aren't into 28 y.o. guys. It's not age related (in your instance).Drewskie said:
speed dawg
Master Don Juan
I never had a problem with just finding random strange. I always had a problem keeping them in relationships when my past-AFCness took over. And I agree about the bars, I never did well there either. I eventually started doing my own thing, and quit caring about whether or not people saw me as a guy that got girls. Your inner confidence takes care of that.
Women are everywhere, you just have to open your eyes. If you stay single long enough, friends will try relentlessly to "hook you up". Use platonic girl friends. I used to get numbers and fvck girls that rung me up at grocery stores. Fvcked a few fat girls too. I had no shame, I wanted as many different pvssies as possible. I was at the strip club trying to bed strippers. Sh1t, even a trip up to the VIP room and a hand job was a good night.
You can meet a lot of chicks through the gym as well. I'm not advocating hitting on girls at the gym, mind you, because I hate that. But just seeing as many faces as possible gives you an automatic ice breaker if you run into those same people later on on the street, in a bar, etc.
Man, those were the days, just enjoying life. And trying to degrade as many dumb chicks as possible. Just smile, and be open to any possibilities. And don't think you have failed if you don't get laid on any particular night. I mean, who cares? Just go to the strip club. You get my drift.
Women are everywhere, you just have to open your eyes. If you stay single long enough, friends will try relentlessly to "hook you up". Use platonic girl friends. I used to get numbers and fvck girls that rung me up at grocery stores. Fvcked a few fat girls too. I had no shame, I wanted as many different pvssies as possible. I was at the strip club trying to bed strippers. Sh1t, even a trip up to the VIP room and a hand job was a good night.
You can meet a lot of chicks through the gym as well. I'm not advocating hitting on girls at the gym, mind you, because I hate that. But just seeing as many faces as possible gives you an automatic ice breaker if you run into those same people later on on the street, in a bar, etc.
Man, those were the days, just enjoying life. And trying to degrade as many dumb chicks as possible. Just smile, and be open to any possibilities. And don't think you have failed if you don't get laid on any particular night. I mean, who cares? Just go to the strip club. You get my drift.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Ollie
Don Juan
This. Seriously dude 21 year old chicks aren't really into younger guys as much as you seem to think. Most of them like guys older than them. I do really well in that age group.Rollo Tomassi said:
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If it's ONSs you're looking for, I really haven't seen them happen with any regularity anywhere other than Craigslist or at the bar.
princelydeeds
Master Don Juan
Oh man 28 is perfect for 23 yr olds, get yourself in to good shape, make yourself excellent and 23 yr olds will love you!!! At 28, you should have a decent job, money, a car, and your own house/apt/etc. What in the hell else do you need to get a 23 yr old? Aside from being absolutely stupid, 23 yr olds are incessantly materialistic and shallow all they want is fun!Drewskie said:
I love internet dating! The number one rule I ahve is that everygirl I meet in life especially online just wants to screw. I have hooked up with probably 100+ chicks online and I would imagine I screwed no less than 90% of them on the 1st night. Yes, every single one of them (just like every single chick I have met in person) said I want a ltr...etc. It's just talk, I pay it no mind at all! If a woman is online, she is lonely, if she's lonely shes horny.Drewskie said:
Where do you find the online ones? I tried craigslist a few times, but it's always some fake spam type b.s. And are any of the girls hot? I checked out pof a while back and all the girls seemed pretty ugly. I think I'm going to try and hit up a few 18 and over spots, see if I can stand hanging out with an 18 year old long enough to get her
in the sack.
in the sack.
LoneRanger
Don Juan
I couldn't have put it better myself. Internet women are VERY lonely and promiscuous.princelydeeds said:
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
skEwb
Don Juan
I hear the high 1st date screw percentage. I've had this sort of luck with internet women. Just a quick question for you, have you had a few play the long term game and want to go on 2nd-3rd date etc.. before giving it up?princelydeeds said:
Or are the ones that keep on wanting dates just a waste of time? In my opinion like 99% of the women I've met online I got on the first night, but I've recently run into one that's becoming more of a challenge.
To answer some of you others out there, craigslist, hotornot, facethejury, faceparty, match.com etc. all these are good sites and I have had sucess from them more than once. Hell even myspace/facebook can be good too.
edger
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Damn, I wish I can say the same for myself. I've tried and tried dilligently with the online thing, had some success 5 yrs ago with one site in particular, but got sh*t on Match.com and the others. All in all, the internet has done sh*t for me. Have gotten a few correspondences with hotties on Match, even got a few numbers, but all these dumb b*tches did was play games. The ones that gave me their numbers, when I called them, they never called back. All lived close by to me too. My game was strong too, and I'm a good-looking guy on top of it. Go figure. Life really f*ckin' sux sometimes, what can I say?princelydeeds said:
yea internet hoes are easy, I have done it a few times but for me personally I never could shake feeling like a heel for ignoring/blocking their calls/IM's after - which I always did. Guess I was not so good at being a player.
LoneRanger
Don Juan
LoneRanger said:
.. or are just divorced, messed game players.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
What do you say actually get these women? All the Cl ads I see from women are fake, and the others are all about LTR bs that I don't have the patience for. you got a good profile template I can steal?princelydeeds said: